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| Quote ="Montyburns"Don’t know the ins and outs of but it’s getting talked about at the moment I wonder sooner just Leigh In my opinion than the centurions'"
Right in that case , let me sort it for you , the club is ' Sporting Club Leigh ' which is a Limited Company incorporated back in 2002/3 , it isn't Leigh Centurions , so if the club was to go bust ( which is nobodies business except the shareholders ) it will be Sorting club Leigh , NOT Leigh Centurions
Now then if the owner/s , new or old decide to change the clubs operating name , that is their perogative , but if a new company was formed to run the proffessional RL club in Leigh they could I am sure still use Leigh Centurions
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| Yeah I knew that gub maybe the club want a fresh start if all goes t*ts up
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Yeah I knew that gub maybe the club want a fresh start if all goes t*ts up'"
So why put they ' wouldn't ' be able to continue using that name ?
Maybe the current owner will decide to stay and call us Leigh Bannanas , it would be up to him/them
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Confidence in him to do what exactly Cokey ?
Maybe bankrupt himself to give us a better team than WE can afford ?
I've no idea what Derek's plans for the future are , and most certainly till this season is over I don't care what they as long as we have a team turn out till then'"
You've asked a question and gave an answer there. What i actually mean is ,the way the club has gone in a downward spiral with him as the main honcho,folk wouldn't have the confidence in him continuing being at the club, and would not attend. I could be wrong,but a lot of folk are very bitter with his running of the club. I am alluding to whether we have a club for next year and onwards. As for this season,we have 6 games left which i sincerely hope we can fill.
Like i said - i want a successful rugby club in this town too,the rest of this season and beyond, and i will be there come what may.
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| Quote ="Cokey"You've asked a question and gave an answer there. What i actually mean is ,the way the club has gone in a downward spiral with him as the main honcho,folk wouldn't have the confidence in him continuing being at the club, and would not attend. I could be wrong,but a lot of folk are very bitter with his running of the club. I am alluding to whether we have a club for next year and onwards. As for this season,we have 6 games left which i sincerely hope we can fill.
Like i said - i want a successful rugby club in this town too,the rest of this season and beyond, and i will be there come what may.'"
A downward spiral ? , from when ? , when we couldn't pay our part time team , and Derek wrote a cheque to pay the wages ? , from then ?
Seems to me we've been successful since he took over , or has our season in SL all been a dream ?
Time to stop all speculating , let Derek get on with doing what he needs to do , enjoy our remaining games , support the players wearing the shirt and see what happens at the end of the season
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| Quote ="Montyburns"We will have to drop the centurions name if we go bump maybe back To bears? Or just Leigh'"
So you've just admitted you knew we would not have to do this , so why post we would ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"So you've just admitted you knew we would not have to do this , so why post we would ?'"
Gub just wait and see the outcome it will all be revealed soon enough there is talk of a name change that’s what I’m getting at and that it would not be a bad thing if we did just trying to keep people in the loop
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"[uA downward spiral ? , from when ?[/u , when we couldn't pay our part time team , and Derek wrote a cheque to pay the wages ? , from then ?
Seems to me we've been successful since he took over , or has our season in SL all been a dream ?
Time to stop all speculating , let Derek get on with doing what he needs to do , enjoy our remaining games , support the players wearing the shirt and see what happens at the end of the season'"
When he was bloody minded, and wouldn't accept NJ resignation after the Widnes game last year,and was adamant that he was the right man for the job so he could keep on interfering which he doesn't do now coz KP won't let him. Thankfully the fans pressurised NJ into resigning after the Toulouse game,and then he had the audacity to call the fans despicable. Oh,and that day cost him a 7.5k fine for his behaviour on SM,and that was after putting that game back an hour which aggrieved quite a few fans. I could go on.
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| Quote ="Cokey"When he was bloody minded, and wouldn't accept NJ resignation after the Widnes game last year,and was adamant that he was the right man for the job so he could keep on interfering which he doesn't do now coz KP won't let him. Thankfully the fans pressurised NJ into resigning after the Toulouse game,and then he had the audacity to call the fans despicable. Oh,and that day cost him a 7.5k fine for his behaviour on SM,and that was after putting that game back an hour which aggrieved quite a few fans. I could go on.'"
Giving players 2 year contracts, when not knowing what League we would be in ,paying KC a fair few quid. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Giving players 2 year contracts, when not knowing what League we would be in ,paying KC a fair few quid.
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Who of any decent standing do you suggest would take a one year contract, or even a 2 year with a failure clause in it
I'll give you KC, sold him a good un there. Without him I reckon we would have had a good chunk of last of seasons squad and be rubbing our hands in the M8's looking at some SL teams performances
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Why ?'"
It is notable that the club logo is the coat of arms above 'Leigh RLFC' on an official press release today.
Interesting that, don't you think?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Giving players 2 year contracts, when not knowing what League we would be in ,paying KC a fair few quid.
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Ian, what i am unsure about is,the 700k & 500k we received. We had to spend that money on players,but did we have to spend it all this season? If we did,you can't blame degsey for spending it,but you can for not spending it wisely. We had a decent enough squad at the end of last season,and i just never understood the culling of that squad which we could've kept more players, and that consequently meant we had to recruit, and dish out 2 year contracts because 1 year contracts wouldn't have been accepted. BTW - It was Marwan who recommended KC to Degsey.
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| Quote ="ColD"Who of any decent standing do you suggest would take a one year contract, or even a 2 year with a failure clause in it
I'll give you KC, sold him a good un there. Without him I reckon we would have had a good chunk of last of seasons squad and be rubbing our hands in the M8's looking at some SL teams performances'"
Col , the majority of the playing squad were given 2 year contracts ,which couldn't be honoured which is why a large percentage left,I suppose others like Hutchy, Reynolds ,Dawson, and Evans stayed because they could better the contracts they are on , or couldn't find alternative clubs to go to,
I agree about the players not wanting to take a contract with a failure clause in it, but the person who handed out the contracts shouldn't moan if the plans fail,after all he is the ONLY one at fault.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Ian, what i am unsure about is,the 700k & 500k we received. We had to spend that money on players,but did we have to spend it all this season? If we did,you can't blame degsey for spending it,but you can for not spending it wisely. We had a decent enough squad at the end of last season,and i just never understood the culling of that squad which we could've kept more players, and that consequently meant we had to recruit, and dish out 2 year contracts because 1 year contracts wouldn't have been accepted. BTW - It was Marwan who recommended KC to Degsey.'"
Derek, I'm not privy to who recommended KC to Derek so I can't comment on that,I'm not sure about the timescale for spending the Central Funding money of the parachute payment,but it caused average playing be paid very good wages,not the players fault, but the Management.
As for the breaking up of the squad, that must be Jukesys idea, I'm sure if KC was at the Club then, hindsight is a wonderful thing, losing at Barrow at the beginning of the season was the start of the bad run, but how did lose at home to Fev and Toulouse?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Ian, what i am unsure about is,the 700k & =#80BF00500k we received. We had to spend that money on players,but did we have to spend it all this season? If we did,you can't blame degsey for spending it,but you can for not spending it wisely. We had a decent enough squad at the end of last season,and i just never understood the culling of that squad which we could've kept more players, and that consequently meant we had to recruit, and dish out 2 year contracts because 1 year contracts wouldn't have been accepted. BTW - It was Marwan who recommended KC to Degsey.'"
£460k parachute payment, DB would have had to chuck 40k in the kitty along with the other 11 SL clubs.
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Gub just wait and see the outcome it will all be revealed soon enough there is talk of a name change that’s what I’m getting at and that it would not be a bad thing if we did just trying to keep people in the loop'"
No that isn't what you were getting at , if it was you'd have posted " I think we should change our name " , not we will have to change our name
" talk of a name change " , by who ? , who told you ? , Derek ? ' if not then you'll believe anything
" Keep people in the loop " , what so you have genuine guaranteed information from the owner ? , so are we changing name or not ?
Or are you just listening to gossip and then repeating it ?
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| Quote ="atomic"£460k parachute payment, DB would have had to chuck 40k in the kitty along with the other 11 SL clubs.'"
That's right,and £460k + £40k = £500k which had to be spent on players.
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| Quote ="Cokey"When he was bloody minded, and wouldn't accept NJ resignation after the Widnes game last year,and was adamant that he was the right man for the job so he could keep on interfering which he doesn't do now coz KP won't let him. Thankfully the fans pressurised NJ into resigning after the Toulouse game,and then he had the audacity to call the fans despicable. Oh,and that day cost him a 7.5k fine for his behaviour on SM,and that was after putting that game back an hour which aggrieved quite a few fans. I could go on.'"
Not saying he hasn't made mistakes , although they are always easier to spot afterwards than at the time , as for the Toulouse game , his opinion , one I both agree and disagree with , I've never booed Leigh , but I did applaud the French
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| Quote ="Cokey"That's right,and £460k + £40k = £500k which had to be spent on players.'"
Yes, but all tolled the expenditure on players was £1.7m, so a further investment of £500k was made from somewhere.
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| Quote ="ColD"Who of any decent standing do you suggest would take a one year contract, or even a 2 year with a failure clause in it
I'll give you KC, sold him a good un there. Without him I reckon we would have had a good chunk of last of seasons squad and be rubbing our hands in the M8's looking at some SL teams performances'"
Agree with you there Col
Just for the record termination clauses for under performing aren't as far as I am aware on the RFL list of acceptable clauses that can be incorporated into a players contract
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Not saying he hasn't made mistakes , although they are always easier to spot afterwards than at the time , as for the Toulouse game , his opinion , one I both agree and disagree with , [uI've never booed Leigh , but I did applaud the French'" [/u
Me too. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It is notable that the club logo is the coat of arms above 'Leigh RLFC' on an official press release today.
Interesting that, don't you think?'"
Not seen that one Harold , what did they announce ?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Ian, what i am unsure about is,the 700k & 500k we received. We had to spend that money on players,but did we have to spend it all this season? If we did,you can't blame degsey for spending it,but you can for not spending it wisely. We had a decent enough squad at the end of last season,and i just never understood the culling of that squad which we could've kept more players, and that consequently meant we had to recruit, and dish out 2 year contracts because 1 year contracts wouldn't have been accepted. BTW - It was Marwan who recommended KC to Degsey.'"
Fairly sure that was the deal as that is what Derek put in his ' essay ' , obviously they ( RFL and the SL clubs ) were worried about the French but couldn't make the offer after the MPG , I'd suggest ( guess , as I don't have the quality of contacts others claim to have ) the deal was , you get the extra half mil if you spend like 1.5 on your squad
I also was baffled by our wholesale changes , but it's all history now
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| One thing I've noticed through life is that when you think things can't get much worse, another door opens for you.
Now that the Clown Prince has gone or nearly gone, thank goodness, someone else will step forward. Leigh is a rugby league hotbed with an excellent stadium in the town. It's a no-brainer that someone else will invest. With the right investor, one who won't walk away when the going gets tough, this town can become a force in RL, attracting good crowds along the way. Hold onto your seats.
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