WYSIWYG - Put a sock in it "mate".

Most fans don't even know what the people who run their clubs look like, don't know their names and never get the chance to speak to them ever,

The fact that he communicates with us on here is a privilage and i'm sure he would'nt do it if he didn't want to hear what the fans have to say and hear their ideas and issues.

I think it takes some guts to do it and reassures me that he has the clubs best interest at heart.

Sums up the Canadian Leythers opinion. This has gone beyond constructive criticism.
I have found the posts by the people now involved in the club nothing but informative and professional. So many threads on here in the past have suffered from a lack of information or correctly informed comment, and have spun out of control because of that, sometimes leading to damaging rumours evolving.

First off, I'm not Andy - my name on the post is a clue there.

Secondly, why should I not post on here, please? Have I been banned? I post MY opinions and FACTS, which hopefully COMMUNICATE messages to supporters, (and non-supporters, of course.)

I will repeat, the idea is to COMMUNICATE, using whatever channel available,to try and get supporters and sponsors down to the club. Personally, I don't think that's a bad aim. For instance, when I've done the programme, I give a taster of what's in it, on this message board, and our opponents' message board - the idea being, to ADVERTISE the programme to potential buyers.

Should I not be doing that? Should we in fact be producing a programme? It's contents are open to ridicule.
Should we be communicating with the press? To do so, leaves us open to ridicule.
Should we have Fans' Forums? They leave the presenters open to ridicule.
Should we have LCTV? It runs the risk of the players/commentary team being open to ridicule.
Should we broadcast games? That leaves us open to ridicule.
Should we be boosting the club on Twitter and Facebook? That surely leaves us open to ridicule?

I accept, and have posted on here, (exposing myself to ridicule) that you are perfectly entitled to express your opinion. Strangely enough, I believe that I also am entitled to my opinion, and should be allowed to post facts on here, to help folks get an understanding of what goes on at the club.

Oh, and by the way, I don't know whether your final sentence was aimed at 'Andy' or me, but if it was me, I would be insulted by it and would humbly suggest that it infringes the rules of this forum. However 'ridiculed' I feel, I would not lower myself to issuing petty insults - that really would expose me to ridicule, not to mention being banned!

Is there an ignore button because this is getting stupid from this guy and spoiling discussion not adding to it

Alan

One of the worst tools that dysfunctional people have in their locker is the art of trying to belittle others.

Its a fact that people who cant stop putting other people down have very low self esteem and usually suffer from insecurity.

Just pushed it.

Where is it?

Its a special one on my keyboard

I press it and it just passes by bitter and twisted fools pathetic posts

Found it in the controls, find the friends and foes select foes and put the user name in you want to ignore/not see posts

It's brilliant every post of his has gone

Thing is, Andy, he can have some valid points to make, and he's entitled to an opinion. Who's to say we are right and he is wrong? Or who's to say he is right and we are wrong? They are just opinions, but he just has to slag off everyone whose opinion doesn't coincide with his! (and anyone connected with the club, it would seem!)

Lets not all fall out and alienate one person. We all want the same thing, at least he cares eh!

Oh dear, I see why some people think it best that you didn't post on here.

The only thing I find worring is the statement of he's not interested in people who do not come anymore,good luck with that one lad!!!!

The main poop stirrer does have a point though,anyone in a position at the club shouldn't be getting involved in slanging matches on it as it paints a bad picture.

Just post info and leave it at that.

Me I will not be there tonight staying away until we announce the end of this partnership nonsense.

Have wigan rang and said who we can borrow this week?

Right so you thought WYSIWYGs post was fine then calling Andy thick ?

Dodgy ground that SRW1996, not very profesional at all, in my opinion its bordering on personal insults.
Please keep to what you say you are doing keeping us supporters informed about the Rugby club.

It’s a case of damned if you do damned if you don’t.

We’ve knocked the club for years about poor communication, and I can see how club officials see this board as a way of improving that and in the main should be applauded for doing so. But if ever we needed a thread to show what WYSIWYG is meaning then we don’t have to look any further than here.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

It would be good if both parties took a little time out to re-read what they have written, remember that this is an independent message board, and that we all have the right not only to post whatever they wish, but to be treated with respect.

Had no idea that there actually was such a button. I thought it was a joke, but it's very useful.

Was he calling Andy 'thick'? It was in a post responding to me!

This. A thousand times over.

Wouldn't it be nice if real life were like that? We had a little button we could press and get rid of everyone who didn't agree with us.
Would it be nice, or boring?

Wouldn't it be better if you tried to get the bitter and twisted fools back watching the team they have loved for most of their lives? The bitter and twisted fool you refer to has spent a great number of hours and money watching Leigh over the last 40 odd years.
That's not to say he isn't a bitter and twisted fool though

Your missing my point I think,

IMO we cant allow ourselves to focus our attentions and resources on fans who don't wish to come and will always find a reason not to come and historically have always done so.

I'm not personally responsible for marketing or sales we have a designated team and a director who covers this area of the business now (and incidentally is working on some great initiatives for fans for 2014/15) but I personally feel we need to focus on growing the a NEW fan base via the community, families and most importantly schools and children while looking after our loyal and passionate core of fans who have helped hold the club together by attending regular through thick and thin.

This is not aimed at anyone in particular but the "not going because its 16/18 quid brigade" still wont go tonight because we have a so called "partnership with Wigan" so what will the excuse be when we scrap the partnership then and offer competitive costs over a full season???

Incidentally I post on here as a Fan and posted on here prior to any involvement other than being a sponsor so my views are my own and not the views of Leigh Centurions and the BOM.

There only 2 that would qualify to play tonight, Spencer and Taylor and i think they are both injured.