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| In my opinion it does we are charging near as dam the same as superleague clubs to watch championship rugby
If you charge more than your product is worth you have no chance of increasing your business
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| Crowds will not increase overnight but if we get the word out about pricing etc and play good rugby people will come back!
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| If cost isnt the factor then why dont we charge £23 to get in we will have that debt paid off in no time
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| Quote ="Starbug"As I dont have one , I might , or I might borrow one and save myself a few quid
Why not just offer free beer instead ?'"
Season tickets have names on them, make sure you have another form of id with the same details on or you could get caught out
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| Starbug what was missing from my budget as requested earlier?
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| Quote ="Saley2"If cost isnt the factor then why dont we charge £23 to get in we will have that debt paid off in no time'"
Because you have to try and strike a balance, you get it right or you get it wrong. Also one other point I would like to make over the last three years crowds have increased year on year I think and if you buy your ticket a couple of days early you get in for the same price as last year. The options are there for people, if they can be bothered
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| That is all well and good for hardcore fans demon how are we going tonget the floating fans back / new fans?
Do you honestly think £18 is reasonable for a walk up fan to pay to watch championship rugby when they can watch superleague for the same?
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| Probably not but cheaper than Fax that I know of, if you buy your North Stand ticket early its cheaper than Fev. Also the hardcore fans would just take advantage of any offers anyway = money lost, and as Starbug pointed out if you offered everyone in for free you still wouldn't fill the stadium at the moment.
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| The free argument is both pointless and irrelivent
What i am saying is how do we get fans back these will be like it or not walk up on the day fans they will not pre purchase why should they have to? Charging them more on the day is another reason why people will not attend.
£18 to watch leigh is not worth the money and im a die hard stupid fan who would pay anything to watch leigh
Value for money is everything people are not stupid the only way we will move forward is offing this and not focusing on away supporters or fans who our out of our demograpic
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| Quote ="Saley2"In my opinion it does we are charging near as dam the same as superleague clubs to watch championship rugby
If you charge more than your product is worth you have no chance of increasing your business'"
Ok, thats me off to Warrington then
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| Exactly £18 to watch warrington is very good value for money in my opinion
Any news on mymissing budget figures mate?
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| Quote ="Saley2"Exactly £18 to watch warrington is very good value for money in my opinion
Any news on mymissing budget figures mate?'"
How much do you think they would be charging without a rich benefactor and sky tv money?
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| Quote ="Saley2"Crowds will not increase overnight but if we get the word out about pricing etc and play good rugby people will come back!'"
Wrong on both acounts
I've heard them all
I Leigh sign Tommy Martyn, I'll come watching , result crowds went down
If Leigh were in SL, I'd come watching, result it didn't happen
New stadium! , I'll come, result nope
Basil comes back, I'll watch, result nah
Its more complicated than that, some loonies pay a fortune to watch snooker/darts and golf, I'd want paying a lot to go anywhere near them
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| Irrelevant j.c there business plan is there own I said it was value for money nothing else
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| Quote ="Saley2"Irrelevant j.c there business plan is there own I said it was value for money nothing else'"
Its not irrelevent there ST are subsidised,Leigh can't do that.
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| Quote ="Saley2"Exactly £18 to watch warrington is very good value for money in my opinion
Any news on mymissing budget figures mate?'"
But I wont will I, because I am not a Warrington fan, I watch Leigh or nobody, it isn't just about the money, we are not selling beans
As for the budget, probably another hundred other things I cannot even remember, like most businesses
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| Quote ="Saley2"The free argument is both pointless and irrelivent
What i am saying is how do we get fans back these will be like it or not walk up on the day fans they will not pre purchase why should they have to? Charging them more on the day is another reason why people will not attend.
£18 to watch leigh is not worth the money and im a die hard stupid fan who would pay anything to watch leigh
Value for money is everything people are not stupid the only way we will move forward is offing this and not focusing on away supporters or fans who our out of our demograpic'"
The point was if you can't fill it letting everyone in free, you're not gonna fill it charging £8-£10, and if thats what we are going to charge then get ready for trips to Bristol/Northampton/London/South Wales. If we are going to be realistic about RL outside SL then its not going to last much longer in its present form. Clubs will begin to fall by the wayside like we nearly did in November 2011. From what I understood from the fans forum, it wouldn't have been administration, it would have been liquidation ie no more Leigh RL at the LSV or anywhere. If anyone thinks they can make a go of our club then Phil and Keith will probably gladly step aside to let someone else take over. No one came forward last November and Phil, Keith and Trevor decided to stay on when they could have just walked away. Like it or not it is thanks to their hard work we have a club in 2012. Not forgetting the thousand of pounds raised by the fans, which also helped our club limp into 2012.
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| Didn't mr freer say we were opperating on less tha 300k budget this year surely this covers all our costs otherwise what's the point in saying that?
It is irrelavent j.c as I was stating what I believe as value for money not what the club can afford to charge £18 is a bargain to watch top flight rugby league to watch championship it is not in my opinion
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| Wow there demon I'm not having a go at the board they are doing a fantastic job and without them and Trevor we would not have a club
I am saying we need to look at our pricing and how we can attract floating fans
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| Quote ="Saley2"If cost isnt the factor then why dont we charge £23 to get in we will have that debt paid off in no time'"
Because like most things in life there is a limit to what a person will pay for anything , and that limit is different to everybody, its a chicken and egg situation, which come first the number of fans or the cost? , get the number of fans first and then you can stabilise the cost, the only way of using cost to increase is if you have other non RL relevant income, like 1.2 million from SKY, look at the prices in Aussie , much less than SL, why? Because they have other income streams
Our primary income stream is our fans, dont charge enough and we go bust, very quickly
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| Saley, your ideas and this discussion should be taking place with Messrs Coffey, Freer and Barton. That way you can get from the horses mouth what the situation is and an explanation of x,y and z and then see if your numbers fit.
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| I agree demon it's good to have a debate on what people think though?
P.S you didn't answer my question regarding the budget?
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| Quote ="Saley2"Didn't mr freer say we were opperating on less tha 300k budget this year surely this covers all our costs otherwise what's the point in saying that?
It is irrelavent j.c as I was stating what I believe as value for money not what the club can afford to charge £18 is a bargain to watch top flight rugby league to watch championship it is not in my opinion'"
I'm sorry but its not irrelevent.There STs are subsidised and without that money the STs would be closer to £30 a game, which would be the proper price for top flight RL.
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| Starbug so now you are saying the is a limit to what people pay ?
So how do you know there are not 1000 floating leigh fans who's limit to watch Leigh is £12???
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