Another witness account from Halifax site. Can anyone identify this guy?- Quote below: i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/tommyfax/ley2.jpg the guy wearing the red shirt to the left of the one in pink on the steps is one of the culprits who threatened to rip a Fax fan's head off for reporting their racial abuse he said he had a right to be racist!!! He also told the Fax fans to 'shut the f**k up when cheering on our team

Another witness account from Halifax site. Can anyone identify this guy?- Quote below: i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/tommyfax/ley2.jpg the guy wearing the red shirt to the left of the one in pink on the steps is one of the culprits who threatened to rip a Fax fan's head off for reporting their racial abuse he said he had a right to be racist!!! He also told the Fax fans to 'shut the f**k up when cheering on our team

Quote ="daveshay"Another witness account from Halifax site. Can anyone identify this guy?- Quote below: i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/tommyfax/ley2.jpg the guy wearing the red shirt to the left of the one in pink on the steps is one of the culprits who threatened to rip a Fax fan's head off for reporting their racial abuse he said he had a right to be racist!!! He also told the Fax fans to 'shut the f**k up when cheering on our team'" Presume he's the same bloke you sighted in your account but he means left of the photo when looking at the boy in pink, not to the actual left of the boy in pink. He's the only one with a red shirt in that area (other than Leigh replicas)

Quote ="daveshay"Another witness account from Halifax site. Can anyone identify this guy?- Quote below: i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/tommyfax/ley2.jpg the guy wearing the red shirt to the left of the one in pink on the steps is one of the culprits who threatened to rip a Fax fan's head off for reporting their racial abuse he said he had a right to be racist!!! He also told the Fax fans to 'shut the f**k up when cheering on our team'" Presume he's the same bloke you sighted in your account but he means left of the photo when looking at the boy in pink, not to the actual left of the boy in pink. He's the only one with a red shirt in that area (other than Leigh replicas)

Yes also another witness account relating to the same bloke now also on fax forum.

Disappointing more North Standers are not posting on this topic, this is your club they are ruining.
On one side we have fans walking to Widnes to help their club on the other we have allegations of racism, foul language, violence and spitting which believe me will crucify our SL aspirations if WE turn the other cheek.

its a touchy subject maurice.

there seem to be a few faceless people doing a lot of accusing at the moment and whilst this nasty behaviour was ment to be rampant on sunday its one individual who seems to be being ruined on a rl forum without the abillity to defend himself.that dosnt seem right to me.

Sorry I can't help, I only know one or two in those photos, none of them are those you're asking about, it's further back and to our left as we view the pitch.

So if the faceless people did nowt, it would be brushed under the carpet and it then continues and even becomes acceptable with others joining the clan even. Nip it in the bud I say.
If at the very least these people can be put in a position of explaining their innocense (even if they may not be) would at least let them know this behaviour is not acceptable and would make them think twice.

No fax fans are saying rampant, they seem to focus on 3. If you know those three then you need to get them to the club to either clear their names or be banned for life.
It seems we had this problem at Bradford if you look at a fellow Leythers post earlier and we had it in SL v Leeds if I recall.
Its never many so lets get it sorted, our club doesnt deserve association to this and I would be the first one to defend the rights of the BNP to have a law abiding rally etc but not the behaviour alleged

J.C whilst I accept the individuals' concerned cannot defend themselves unless of course they post on here. They had the audacity to put in a counter allegation when they were approached by the steward, that the Halifax fans in front were shouting the racist abuse! The person/s indentified in a number of reports are a disgrace to your club and they should be banned and subjected to police action. Hopefully a review of the CCTV might help in evidence of those involved in the spitting. Unfortunately the stewards should have acted and ejected the persons concerned after the first complaint, but failed to do so. If the LSV are unable to deal with the problem, I appeal to the fans that witnessed the incident to come forward and make statements to the clubs/ local police. If the issue is just swept under the carpet, similar incidents will occur in future and damage your clubs reputation.

To be fair in this I mentioned photos/video earlier in this thread. I feel it should be down to the LSV/police/press at the request of the police who should be publishing these photos and requesting information and not a wronged fan. While I am not doubting the allegations, I personally didn't see anything. This smacks a little bit of a kangaroo court. Give the photos to the LSV and the police and let them deal with it as they feel fit.

It's all about the process of gathering evidence isn't it to be fair. Yes, this person can't defend himself on here but given that 4 people have already identified him as someone who when questioned on the day, that he admitted it was him being racist by saying 'i'm allowed to be' then he's one of the only people we can be sure of. For most of the game these Fax fans would be hearing it behind them but looking at the pitch so if it was a group of 10, would be hard to give a positive ID on more than a few, which is the case so far as it appears to be 3 that did enough to clearly get noticed. If a fax fans started saying 'aye, it was him, him, him her, him etc' while looking at the photo that's clearly bull and is plucking people out just because they are in that area. But at this moment, given these 3 are the ones mainly mentioned, it's worth looking at the CCTV of these 3 during the game and if these are the ones being spoken to by the stewards then they haven't got much defence as all roads lead to them.

I have personally, along with a lot of other people I know of, to make the RFL, Leigh and Fax know of these people!! I have watched a lot of rugby league over the years amateur, professional both as a fan and as a guest of officials and I have never experienced this sort of situation again and will do my upmost to ensure that these people do not ruin our brilliant game there is no place in rugby league for thugs and racists

If I had know those in question, I wouldn't have posted it on here, I would have notified LSV/Leigh Centurions, they are the ones who need to investigate/act, they should also be talking to the steward who was notified.

Incidents like this are a police matter, give them the evidence and I am sure they will look at the cctv and talk to the steward and anyone else they could talk to who were on that picture although I am sure 95% of the them would be annoyed they were being questioned about racist behaviour

ive already posted my feelings on this subject and about these people on another thread so ive nothing else to say other than,read demon uk's post again because its those orgaizations that should be handling this and not a rl forum.

we are on that pic but didnt hear anything said? not sure who these guys are, never seen them before.

I would have expected LSV/Leigh to contact them after their own investigations.

there is more than one individual involved in this!! A lot of Fax fans have mailed the RFL, Leigh and Fax about this abuse, racism and intimidation. I heard racist comments about Rob Worrincy calling him a n****r and that he should have his visa taken off him when we replied about racism we were told that if we didn't want racist comments then we knew what to do 'get rid of our black players'. I spoke to a steward but got no joy there!!

IMO, the affected fax fans with this evidence should have already contacted the police.

I agree with you too JC.

Some serious allegations here on a public forum - not sure it's the best way to resolve this. There is no reason whatsoever to doubt what the Fax fans are saying but this could easily turn into a public witchhunt.

'The lad in the pink shirt' might only be a point of reference to a picture at the moment but once the rumour mill gets going before you know it he's a 'racsist thug who spat at my wife and ate my dog'.

Unfortunately the LSV stewards should have dealt with the problem but failed to take appropriate action. If fans hadn't raised this issue on the forum the individuals concerned would probably get away with it. In the absence of numbered rows/aisles, identifying the individuals concerned would be difficult after the event. In hindsight the police should have been notified at the time, but the LSV staff should have done this. The pictures posted have provided an opportunity to identify the position in the ground and now the relevant investigations can take place. Nobody has asked for names to be posted on here just that statements of the incident/Positive ID's be passed to Greater Manchester Police/ LSV/ Clubs. It is in the interests of everyone to ensure these individuals are brought to justice. Please telephone Greater Manchester Police on 0161 872 5050 with any info you can provide.

Alex's dad raises a good point and we don't, as he says, need a which hunt about it.

Maybe, now that the photo is on here, simply lock this thread and let the individuals who know who they are to contact the appropriate authorities and point them out that way. We've pretty much sussed it's mainly 3 people but to save someones image being dragged into it publically, we should maybe not let people point them out on here.

Think all the evidence collected so far should be kept. I've alerted the police via email to the thread so they can review the information, but obviously this wont be done immediately so the evidence needs to remain. Would encourage anyone who witnessed the events or anyone with positive Id's to call 0161 8725050 (Greater Manchester Police)immediately.

The evidence can remain on photobucket or wherever you can save the images to cd to give to the police. There are many innocent people on thoose photos. If you are singling out those four and the ones who possible joined them later, you should have cut the photo accordingly.

what evidence is this?
all i see here is a photo of a crowd.
how are they to prove any racism was going on from a still photo?

in the interest of fairness and sanity im going to lock this thread and delete any others that mention the "alleged" incident until things have been proven either way.

the thread will still exist so the police will still be able to view it but theres 3 pages of posts and no one has or will identify them.

you can bet the next home match they will be looked out for a watched very closely though