As put on the other thread just to clarify the facts:

=#FF0000Just to put this to bed please listen carefully.

Paul Rowley chooses his squad nobody else!

Wigan offer us a selection of u24s players and he chooses who if any he wants to add value to our team.

When the RFL brought in the rules on Duals only being allowed from One "Partner Club" other SL clubs in our area had already signed and agreed partnerships and we were trying to avoid having any according to the "Facts" I have seen in minutes from meetings prior to the BOM taking over which Steve Openshaw will verify.

When things transpired against the club I.e. cancelled friendlies, lower than expected attendances coupled with injuries to key personnel and big signings I.e. Aspy, Paul and the management at the time had no choice.

I've stood on the terraces and sang the songs and booed Wigan and trust me it's under consideration I've discussed it only tonight with Steve Openshaw who like me is a leyther and proud. If we can make it work for the club as whole we will get rid of DR and the Wigan link gladly but lets be clear we have respect for Wigan and a good relationship behind the scenes and the reality is until we get another 400/500 fans per game in the stadium week in week out then we need it far more than Wigan do!!!!

Just 400 paying fans more per game would mean five more squad members on contract for Rowls and more fiancé to put towards our youth.

Regards our own 20s we often use trailists they can come from Wigan to Wath Brow and on occasions have to use them due to injuries.

What really winds Steve and our staff up is when we/I read people saying get James Hill for example in the team when in reality he has moved south for work reasons Steve and Paul inform me, great shame but reality of semi professional sport and the door is always open for him and he's welcome back.

I've stood on terraces and had my doubts and wondered what goes on that's why I come on here to give my fellow leythers a view and to try and communicate with you. Reality is lack of P&R has effected the game, the RFL are addressing this for 2015 but we need to kick on and be ready or P&R will be irrelevant anyway.

In summary cutting aside bitter twisted individuals the majority of people appreciate what we are trying to do and we are we're we are and are lucky to have a team as had we not stepped in there most likely would not have been a team to support by now let alone a final to look forward to.

The BOM are assessing the big picture and leaving no stone unturned rest assured and plans are being put in place to move the club forward and we are fully committed as a team to deliver for the people of Leigh. Keith and Trevor held the club together with a shoe string and the BOM have picked up the club now but need fans current and old to support us and help us show the RFL that we are strong enough as a town, team and wider community to be we're we all want to be so please join us and get behind us we can't do it alone!!!

Not turning up does not help anyone, the BOM are leythers just like everyone else it's not our club it's the fans club and the towns team we are simply custodians of it trying hard to get us to we're we all want to be so please join us!!!

Regards

Andy Mazey & Steve Openshaw
For and Behalf of the BOM

Andy

I totally agree with your statement that in our current position it is vital we have a partnership with Wigan,without the support i believe we probably be looking at around 8th or 9th in the league and definitely not be in any final.
Next year again will be a difficult,but with a chance of being in the new set up for 2015 we may get more fans back as i think the biggest turn off for supporters is the fact that there is no promotion. If we stop the partnership with Wigan as some fans on this forum want Leigh will not be in the mix for 2015 season no matter how good Paul Rowley picks and coaches his team.
Only a few years ago Leigh were relegated into the bottom tier but survived due to the fact another club went bust, so lets keep pushing forward to get the missing fans back to the club.

Needs must as I stated, in all fairness to Keith Freer and Trevor they had no option and PR needed the options. Despite the new BOM, decent form and reasonable weather crowds are still low and need to improve quickly as we cant pump good money after bad to subsidise fans that are staying away for ever.

We are looking at pricing structures initiatives and incentives, we will trail a couple of Event days this season (O2 day already arranged) and are looking to completely overhaul the match day experience to get people buying season tickets etc. for next year and some exciting deals and things to come but the bottom line is we need an average of no less than 2.5k next season to demonstrate we will be ready to challenge in the new structures IMO.

People now have the chance to vote with their feet and really make that difference, if you want rid of the DR and Wigan partnership back us till this season ends demonstrate commitment when STs go on sale as we are looking to get them on sale early and we will then look to do away with DRs and Wigan and finance a bigger squad and the U20s it really is that simple.

The earliest we can now make the top 12 clubs is now 2016 (unless they do franchise bids for the 12 for 2015). First challenge is to keep us in the top 6 or 8 next season.......then the fun begins. Its gonna be really tough to get the crowds in next season as it us now. I just hope you realise that. It isn't going to happen overnight.

We all appreciate how difficult it is but standing back and looking at something thinking its tough wont get us anywere.

Its on the line now we have the facilities, the board, the coaching staff and players the ball is well and truly in the fans court now to prove if they want a bright future or not.

I already applauded this statement on another thread and do so again.

My pledge is to purchase a season ticket as soon as they are released. My Dad goes to most home games so it will make a great present.

Andy,
If you are going to have a deal on Season Tickets, can we have a definitive statement on what days our games will be played on. I know the televisied ones are out of our hands, but can we now get precedence over Swinton and commit to having all outr non-televised hoe games on a Sunday afternoon. This more than the cost would persuade me to buy a ST.

......and if we reverted back to Friday night games, me and 5 others would get season tickets again. You can't please everyone.

All fine and dandy lad,but the previous board all but destroyed the club with the previous link up with warrington and seeing who smith would let us play that week coupled with no promotion ripped the interest out of the crowd.

Then trev's awful attempt of explaining how it was great for us to be able to play these wigan lads and we were the idiots for not supporting it was the final nail.

People have voted with there feet and fingers judging by the lack of interest on here at times.

Fully understand you need to balance the books and are toying with the idea of staying twinned for next season,but fans like me will not attend until its ripped up,can't make it anymore clearer than that.

Our party use to number 9 and now 2 go depending on who the game is against

Rip up the deal on duels and you get us 9 back next season

Good luck in the final

Well its pretty clear the BOD / BOM will stop the dual reg farce if we get fans backing the club.
Now I'm no fan of DR and still don't see a need for it (if it means we are the 8th best team then so be it - I'll take 8th as a independent over 2nd as a dual reg'd club) BUT lets be totally honest here....

Our club needs support to stand still, yes the DR is a farce and a insult to many HOWEVER it was done and dusted before the new mob came in and by staying away its losing the club money - Wigan must love it as already on these boards we see a occasional 'Wigan love in' so if we go bust they'll gain a couple of hundred fans and a few generations of fans after that - is that what we want, is that what guys disgusted with the DR want - I'd imagine all fans would sing from the same hymn sheet if that was to happen but by staying away you are increasing the likelihood, we are down to a pathetic gate of circa 1,500 - we could play at a amateur RL ground on those gates - so lets stop messing around.

Whilst we can all argue about it and argue that PR would want to keep it (I've said before he's 6 games from the sack in a results industry - of course he'd want to keep all options open, he's not a idiot) but I firmly believe if the club somehow started to get decent support then this would be binned as the guys running the club know long term its harming the clubs chances of players and existence.
I'd argue 95% of current fans who still go don't want to see Wigan players (or anyone elses) getting match practise to get in the big clubs team but we are doing it tough right now so have no option.

I still believe a helluva lot of work needs to be done by the current BOD / BOM and am still critical that the actions are slow (in fact hardly much difference in real terms that the previous owners) but I'm also more confident than ever that these guys and girls will turn it around - lets give em a chance and at the same time back the lads, by staying away it harms the club and gives the advantage to Wigan - lets not do that.

Thanks

Hi Jenky
Thank you for your post, please remember the majority of an iceberg cannot be seen and its this that allows it to float
The yet to be finalised changes in the games structure make the next few years vital to our future, it is our intention to seize the initiative and sell our vision to fans old and new, the take up of which will ultimately dictate our future success
A lot has been going on behind the scenes these past few weeks and the work put in by all but especially John and Michael has been unbelievable considering what they also do as a day job, thanks guys
Our relationship with the LSV is brilliant, and this will create huge improvements going forward for the benefit of all
I see the process of create the platform, identify opportunities, create products to maximise the potential of those opportunities and sell the benefits to our current and prospective stakeholders, motivating them to be an active part of what will be an exciting journey
The platform is almost complete and I can't wait for the journey to begin but trust us to get the foundations right because we want something that lasts

Neil

I'd much prefer no linkup however needs must and the club needs money to survive. So I choose to support the club and not try and bully those in charge. JIC says good luck in the final.......empty words in my opinion.

So don't come because we play Tom Spencer; Do me a favour.

It costs our club a lot of gate money just to play at the LSV and we get nothing from bar or food sales.

Jesus is Coming 7 of you will be back if we are in Champ 1 ? Get real.

The way to get only contracted Leigh players every week is to support your club and if you won't be at the NRC Final a week Saturday you can't imo care about the club that much.

Do you want our club to play only contracted Leythers ? Well I think most of us who still go do too but unless we get decent home attendances how is that going to happen ?

Agreed. I can't make evening matches but that's my problem. At least though if it were announced that all our home games would be played on the same day and the same time, regardless of whther it is Friday evening, Sunday afternoon or Wednesday morning, everyone would know whether they could get there and whther it is worth buying aseason ticket.

On that question of when, those who prefer Friday or Sunday, how do you feel about Saturday 7pm?
Keeps Sundays free for families, makes it easier for groups to arrange socially, no work/ school next day, poor SL game on the sat and none in mid summer to compete with, soccer fans could make it back in time, is it a good corporate time?

The problem is everyone wants what’s best for themselves, me I like it as it is Sunday afternoon, that allows me to watch SL Friday evening, go to the football on Saturday afternoon, I could probably if I tried be back in time for a 7pm KO, but I usually take Mrs glow out Saturday night, I know I could take her with me but until ‘the experience’ is better she’ll not want to go.

But the BOM are running a business, so need to make some hard business decisions, and pick whatever they feel is best for the club overall, and which ever they choose stick with it, we may lose some , for work or other reasons but so long as the business prospers then the decisions the right one.

Don't care when we play. If I can make it I will if I can't I won't. I may buy a season ticket I may not. Next season will probably subscribe to CTV, at the moment I have a lot of expense.

I'd go for 5.30 on a Saturday. Plenty of time after for a night out or whatever. Remember a night out for us old uns usually starts around 8.00 and finishes at 10.30.

Why empty words? I want them to win

Andy posted a heart felt
plea I gave a answer as to why I have given up

Seems a lot more have as well judged by ticket sales?

Don,t get me wrong the new board have great passion but they have to realise the previous damage done

Can,t see the problem in dropping the twining if as frank says they only play one lad,well either get him on a season loan or rip up the twinning if we don't need it? as we only play one lad

Once again good luck in the final as I will be working that day

Keith

If 1400/1800 people agree to buy season tickets for next season and we can guarantee an average of around 2.2/2.5k minimum next season then I will personally rip up any DR/ Partnership agreement (if there actually is one) and do it on the town hall steps.

The BOM are willing to bankroll and manage the process to take us to SL the RFL and LSV believe in the calibre of our management team but we need fans to back us now simple as that mate.

Fact is the BOMs circa 100k per season investment will cover attendance shortfalls and not signings unless the people of Leigh back us.

Cheers
Andy

We are not "twinned" with anyone. I believe you know that, but choose that term in an attempt to garner support for your opinion. That is exactly the kind of misrepresented information that will continue to hurt our club.
Well said Andy M. Clear as day what we need to do to build a strng Leigh team and end the agreement with Wigan

Please why is it that some cant read what has been written and understand, how hard is it to understand
We have had no money to sign players when we got injuries earlier in the season, Paul had already banked on having a couple of duals before the "new" changes came into force. So we had a relatively small squad, however it was all we could afford, and its been proven we couldn't really even afford that! So Paul had to use some duals from Wigan whether he liked it or not, or risk playing young lads who weren't ready.
If he had done this and we were down in a relegation fight what would everyone had said then?

Simple sign up to LISA, Touchdown and buy a season ticket. If enough do it we wont need duals next year.

Don't waste your time on them Lynda they are either too thick,or too bloody minded to see the truth even when it batters them on the forehead, no one likes it (dual contracts with wigan warington or bloody Timbuktu) but it is unfortunately a fact of life, they will say next that they are supporters well I don't see any signs of it.

Right ok i've had enough, ffs, for crying out loud, jesus h christ . Why do soooooo many people get their knickers in a twist about Dual Reg players??????, as long as i can remember we, sorry, all teams have loan players but had no control over who when and for how long . Now if i understand it correctly we actually engage with both DC player/s and club, especially with the the club that the DCs come from and if we are "sharp enough" we use Their resorces to our advantage until we grow enough in stature and support to be the ones loaning players out on DCs. Like a few others on here i can't understand how you can "love your club" but then go and deprive it of much needed financial and vocal support. More support = less need for help from other clubs fecking simple to my sunburnt mind.