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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"icon_lol.gif Sorry but this makes me laugh, many Warrington fans are the same if we lose.
And before you ask, I'm on here revising I've got an exam tomorrow morning
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I'd say the same about Wire fans on a Wigan forum in similar circumstances. I just don't get it.
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| Oh y y, y y y y Warrington
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'd say the same about Wire fans on a Wigan forum in similar circumstances. I just don't get it.'"
It's just garden variety "my dad's bigger than your dad" mentality ... we all grow out of it eventually, just some earlier than others
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| Quote ="lister"Losing King with injury part way through and having Hicks sin-binned didn't help either, on the aspects of losing good players and also the shuffles that would have been required.
I'm sure Wigan would struggle without Sam Tomkins, Riddell, Andy Coley, Gleeson and say if they had Richards sin binned.'"
We have had our fair share of injuries to this season like Roberts, Phelps, Coley, Gleeson, Hansen, Riddell and Leuliau and we also went down to ten men during the game with Saints.
The real test now though is how you cope next week, huge game v Hudds.
Season's starting to get interesting
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| Quote ="Smalls"I pity him too mate.His team have a measly 17 challenge cups and 18 League Championships.Poor lad.'"
Ah, you misunderstand me. I said I pitied him for posting on a rivals RL forum website late in the evening to gloat when there are so many things he could be doing with his time. I can see him now in his semi with his missus in the front room shouting "Odemwingie, come down I've got Corrie on Sky plus", and him "Just a minute love, just winding up people I don't know on a provincial sporting website, I'm gonna show them who is boss"
By the way, I never said Wigan did not have historical rugby league success. You were a great team once.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'd say the same about Wire fans on a Wigan forum in similar circumstances. I just don't get it.'"
All part of the banter
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| Quote ="lister"Losing King with injury part way through and having Hicks sin-binned didn't help either, on the aspects of losing good players and also the shuffles that would have been required.
I'm sure Wigan would struggle without Sam Tomkins, Riddell, Andy Coley, Gleeson and say if they had Richards sin binned.'"
Accept the defeat with grace, this game had nothing to do with Wigan. We lost. End of.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Ah, you misunderstand me. I said I pitied him for posting on a rivals RL forum website late in the evening to gloat when there are so many things he could be doing with his time. I can see him now in his semi with his missus in the front room shoting "Odemwingie, come down I've got Corrie on Sky plus", and him "Just a minute love, just winding up people I don't know on a provincial sporting website, I'm gonna show them who is boss"
By the way, I never said Wigan did not have historical rugby league success. =#FF0000You were a great team once.'"
Unlike Warrington who never have been.(sorry couldn't resist).
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| Odem
You're a passive aggressive, you display all the traits
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Your type are very annoying, take your low self-esteem elsewhere.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"With one of burrow or lautiti, and 17 players instead of 16 (for the most part) leeds would have won by more.
It's about as logical as your post.'"
you didnt win by more when these players played against Cas wakefield huddersfield saints etc etc.....in fact you didnt win at all
We lost an England Scrum half and a lance todd winning hooker....they are influential to us whereas Leeds do not miss Lauititi (eddie hemmings may do) and always seem to cope well when shuffling the backs around to cover the loss of borrow (or mcguire) which is a credit to them before you wet yourself...
you should be grateful wire still have an element of inconsistency and you kopped us after a perfect performance from last weekend....
no dramas from me...this squad (bar 3) never made the play offs last year we didnt do that bad tonight and arent doing that bad at the halfway point of the season.....
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Odem
You're a passive aggressive, you display all the traits
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You're type are very annoying, take your low self-esteem elsewhere.'"
That is why I feel a little sorry for him. I would never, ever, go onto a Wigan forum at 10pm on a Friday night following a Wigan loss at Leeds and gloat. It's just such as odd, bitter, thing to do.
I've read about people who do this "I'll try to make you feel bad to make me feel a bit better about my lot". Really he should switch off his PC, take stock of himself, and take his wife/partner upstairs and make love and then feel better about the world.
He needs to love more, and hate less.
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| As much as I wouldn't expect anyone to wax lyrical about Leeds, but.....
...despite the slow start to the season, Leeds are still the reigning Champions, and have held the crown for the last 3 seasons. Losing at Headingley isn't a disgrace, and if you had taken the two points it would have been a fabulous effort. However, despite Leeds' injury problems, we still know how to win big games.
It's a bit disrespectful for people to start saying "if x player had been playing, and y player, we would have won" - I find that unlikely.
To be a Champion side you adapt to losing "key" men. Leeds lost Brent Webb before a Grand Final, and his replacement won the Harry Sunderland award. Opposing fans ridicule Carl Ablett and Ian Kirke, but they come up with the goods time and again. Leeds have been the subject of quite a few jokes this season, which seems crazy with so much time left and with them having the element of actually knowing how to win this thing!
I think Tony Smith is a legend and he knows exactly what he is doing, and will no doubt bring some real success to Warrington. But have a bit of class and realise that losing to the treble Champions at Headingley, and a club that does pretty much everything the right way, isn't a reflection of how bad Warrington were.
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| Quote ="Smalls"Unlike Warrington who never have been.(sorry couldn't resist).'"
Well it depends on your definition of great. We had our moments in the 50's and early 70's and a spat of decent results in the late 80's early 90's. Indeed we are current CC winners and 2nd in the League. But no, we cannot compete with the Wigan successes of the 80's and early 90's. But neither have we been relegated or cheated on the salary cap. It's horses for courses.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"As much as I wouldn't expect anyone to wax lyrical about Leeds, but.....
...despite the slow start to the season, Leeds are still the reigning Champions, and have held the crown for the last 3 seasons. Losing at Headingley isn't a disgrace, and if you had taken the two points it would have been a fabulous effort. However, despite Leeds' injury problems, we still know how to win big games.
It's a bit disrespectful for people to start saying "if x player had been playing, and y player, we would have won" - I find that unlikely.
To be a Champion side you adapt to losing "key" men. Leeds lost Brent Webb before a Grand Final, and his replacement won the Harry Sunderland award. Opposing fans ridicule Carl Ablett and Ian Kirke, but they come up with the goods time and again. Leeds have been the subject of quite a few jokes this season, which seems crazy with so much time left and with them having the element of actually knowing how to win this thing!
I think Tony Smith is a legend and he knows exactly what he is doing, and will no doubt bring some real success to Warrington. But have a bit of class and realise that losing to the treble Champions at Headingley, and a club that does pretty much everything the right way, isn't a reflection of how bad Warrington were.'"
Such a nice change to hear views from posters like this rather than the other garbage we get on here from those I won't name. You are exactly right. No shame in losing a one off games against big sides. I would like to win the odd one though so I can satisfy myself we can actually compete in the big games.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"As much as I wouldn't expect anyone to wax lyrical about Leeds, but.....
...despite the slow start to the season, Leeds are still the reigning Champions, and have held the crown for the last 3 seasons. Losing at Headingley isn't a disgrace, and if you had taken the two points it would have been a fabulous effort. However, despite Leeds' injury problems, we still know how to win big games.
It's a bit disrespectful for people to start saying "if x player had been playing, and y player, we would have won" - I find that unlikely.
To be a Champion side you adapt to losing "key" men. Leeds lost Brent Webb before a Grand Final, and his replacement won the Harry Sunderland award. Opposing fans ridicule Carl Ablett and Ian Kirke, but they come up with the goods time and again. Leeds have been the subject of quite a few jokes this season, which seems crazy with so much time left and with them having the element of actually knowing how to win this thing!
I think Tony Smith is a legend and he knows exactly what he is doing, and will no doubt bring some real success to Warrington. But have a bit of class and realise that losing to the treble Champions at Headingley, and a club that does pretty much everything the right way, isn't a reflection of how bad Warrington were.'"
Great post, Cant disagree with that.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"As much as I wouldn't expect anyone to wax lyrical about Leeds, but.....
...despite the slow start to the season, Leeds are still the reigning Champions, and have held the crown for the last 3 seasons. Losing at Headingley isn't a disgrace, and if you had taken the two points it would have been a fabulous effort. However, despite Leeds' injury problems, we still know how to win big games.
It's a bit disrespectful for people to start saying "if x player had been playing, and y player, we would have won" - I find that unlikely.
To be a Champion side you adapt to losing "key" men. Leeds lost Brent Webb before a Grand Final, and his replacement won the Harry Sunderland award. Opposing fans ridicule Carl Ablett and Ian Kirke, but they come up with the goods time and again. Leeds have been the subject of quite a few jokes this season, which seems crazy with so much time left and with them having the element of actually knowing how to win this thing!
I think Tony Smith is a legend and he knows exactly what he is doing, and will no doubt bring some real success to Warrington. But have a bit of class and realise that losing to the treble Champions at Headingley, and a club that does pretty much everything the right way, isn't a reflection of how bad Warrington were.'"
Although you may not be on about me i'll respond as though you have.
What i said about having Monas and Myler out is actually a back handed compliment to Leeds, I am in essence saying to beat the big clubs we need the extra pizazz because the games will be close calls.
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| just got back from tonights game,imo there wasn't that much between the 2 sides tbf,we got away from you with a few quick un-answered tries,but warrington to their credit never gave in and they made a real game of it
i think that the wire are a great side to watch,i like your style of play and your defense is very tough.
imo these 2 sides will have to battle it out a few more times this season and possibly when the stakes will be far higher,i can't wait
fantastic turnout from your fans tonight,it's a long time since i've seen so many travelling over on a friday night
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Although you may not be on about me i'll respond as though you have.
What i said about having Monas and Myler out is actually a back handed compliment to Leeds, I am in essence saying to beat the big clubs we need the extra pizazz because the games will be close calls.'"
Fair enough.
But it's unlikely you'll go into big games with a perfect bill of health. As rescuedblue said, champion teams adapt. I think warrington have a real shot at the super league title this season but to do it you're gonna need to have it in your locker to be able to beat a top team in a big game without a myler, or a briers or a monoghan.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Although you may not be on about me i'll respond as though you have.'"
Nice response!! And made me smile!
Quote ="Wire_Yed"What i said about having Monas and Myler out is actually a back handed compliment to Leeds, I am in essence saying to beat the big clubs we need the extra pizazz because the games will be close calls.'"
Fair comment. However even having those two players playing wouldn't necessarily have meant you would have come closer to winning. It was just one of those nights. If Burrow and Lauitiiti (one of the most attack minded forwards in the league) had been playing I don't think it would have meant Leeds would have won by 40. When a game is a grind, your "star" players don't always make the difference you need. Ryan Bailey won a man of the match award tonight. A player ridiculed by many opposing fans. Yet his contribution was deemed more important by some than Kevin Sinfield, or Danny McGuire. The "gamebreakers".
I know you think that when you had all that pressure on the Leeds line, one of those two would have unlocked it. But if those two players had been playing, you may never have got into that position in the first place!
Butterfly effect!
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| Quote ="back to back to back"Fair enough.
But it's unlikely you'll go into big games with a perfect bill of health. As rescuedblue said, champion teams adapt. I think warrington have a real shot at the super league title this season but to do it you're gonna need to have it in your locker to be able to beat a top team in a big game without a myler, or a briers or a monoghan.'"
spot on, and what I have noticed that doesnt seem to happen anymore is we dont play half fit players anymore...
I fancy a couple of seasons ago one or both of Myler and Monas would have been forced to play with strapping/ injections etc.... its a good situation to be in and granted we just arent at that level of Leeds when it comes to covering key players...
I'm thinking of Rauhii playing with a bad back, Leikvoll playing with bad back knees and ankles! Monas playing with a calf injury probably many more, we are in a much better position despite tonights result
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| Quote ="Wires71"That is why I feel a little sorry for him. I would never, ever, go onto a Wigan forum at 10pm on a Friday night following a Wigan loss at Leeds and gloat. It's just such as odd, bitter, thing to do.
I've read about people who do this "I'll try to make you feel bad to make me feel a bit better about my lot". Really he should switch off his PC, take stock of himself, and take his wife/partner upstairs and make love and then feel better about the world.
He needs to love more, and hate less.'"
I am not gloating. I have actually said I think wire will take the league leaders this year. I'm not gloating, all I have done on this thread is defend myself over Peacocks injuries and put wire fans straight who think the only reason they lost is injuries. You seem more realistic though.
Also, it's late at night, often the only time I get on the computer.
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| Just got back.
Thaler was a joke.
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| Quote ="wembley2010"unlucky wire we would of won this with 1 of myler monaghan great effort to comeback'"
course you would, and had burrows been in the squad and Peacock not gone off after 7 mins we'd have put 30-40+ on you
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| we just cant win big games
losing to wigan , saints and now leeds
if we want to challenge for the title this year then we should be winning at least one out of those 3 , losing 3 wont win us any silverware
wigan have beaten us , leeds and saints
saints have beaten us and leeds losing to wigan
leeds have only beaten us and lost to wigan and saints
and wire lost all three
we need to beat at least one of the big 3 if we need to challenge for the title
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| Quote ="howley-wire"we just cant win big games
losing to wigan , saints and now leeds
if we want to challenge for the title this year then we should be winning at least one out of those 3 , losing 3 wont win us any silverware
wigan have beaten us , leeds and saints
saints have beaten us and leeds losing to wigan
leeds have only beaten us and lost to wigan and saints
and wire lost all three
we need to beat at least one of the big 3 if we need to challenge for the title'"
To be fair mate, there's nothing to be ashamed of at all. Going to Leeds on a friday night with a scrum half and a class hooker missing and for arguments sake a prop (Carvell)missing was always gonna be tough. Sounds to me like Warrington made a good account of themselves.
Long way to go yet and I'm sure there are still a few losses in Wigan and Saints not to mention the odd hiccup from Leeds and maybe even yourselves! Come play offs you'll be right in the thick off the action and then it's knockout rugby and you didn't do too bad at that last year if I recall correctly.
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