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| So Hayes starting half next season, yeh yeh yeh one game I know but from what I have heard about him why not. I mean the choice right now is him or Ratchford or Mata’utia, don’t need a slide rule to work that one out.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"
I do like Lynch from what little I’ve seen of him'"
We might as well play his mother, Bet.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"We might as well play his mother, Bet.'"
Did she not play prop for Salford many years back.
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| Quote ="karetaker" I mean the choice right now is him or Ratchford or Mata’utia, don’t need a slide rule to work that one out.'"
Mata'utia MUST be the poorest centre (with a supposed reputation) since the disaster that was Terry Day, and he was 5h1te.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Mata'utia MUST be the poorest centre (with a supposed reputation) since the disaster that was Terry Day, and he was 5h1te.'"
I didn't go to the game, was he poor again?
Sounds like a true game of two halves. Were Hudds poor second half or did we improve a lot, or a bit of both?
Dufty looks like he means business which is a real bonus.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"I didn't go to the game, was he poor again?'"
I wouldn't have thought Lefty went either ... but Lefty has a bit of form at throwing a bit of cr!p at individuals. It keeps him happy!
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I wouldn't have thought Lefty went either ... but Lefty has a bit of form at throwing a bit of cr!p at individuals. It keeps him happy!'"
Let's be fair, Lefty (& several others) has all his chips on the 'Powell Out' campaign now, so it's unlikely we will ever see anything positive from him until at least June next year
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I wouldn't have thought Lefty went either ... but Lefty has a bit of form at throwing a bit of cr!p at individuals. It keeps him happy!'"
Here we go.
I DO have a habit of throwing cr!P at individual's.
I also have a habit of heaping praise on individuals.
You also have a habit of being obsessed with me, as proved in your quote.
I'll live with it.
I hope the sand eventually comes out of your hair and ears.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Let's be fair, Lefty (& several others) has all his chips on the 'Powell Out' campaign now, so it's unlikely we will ever see anything positive from him until at least June next year
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Another whopper.
When his appointment was announced, my quote was "shrugs shoulders with disappointment", as we were stuck with him.
I FINALLY became a fully signed up member of the "Powell Out" campaign, after the HKR game. If you think he should still be here, then more fool you.
My "shrugs shoulders with disappointment" entry, was quite prophetic, wouldn't you say?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"
My "shrugs shoulders with disappointment" entry, was quite prophetic, wouldn't you say?'"
Not really. He's a year into a 3 year assignment. I'll judge then and credit you for your insightful genius then
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Not really. He's a year into a 3 year assignment. I'll judge then and credit you for your insightful genius then
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Why do you think United got rid of Moyes after 10 months of a 6 year (iirc) contract?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Why do you think United got rid of Moyes after 10 months of a 6 year (iirc) contract?'"
Because Moyes took them from being champions to being unable to qualify for Europe. Powell was actually assigned to do what he has done. Root out the dead wood from a constantly failing side and then build a squad for years 2 and 3 of his contract.
Honestly mate, you really need to keep up...
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Because Moyes took them from being champions to being unable to qualify for Europe. Powell was actually assigned to do what he has done. Root out the dead wood from a constantly failing side and then build a squad for years 2 and 3 of his contract.
Honestly mate, you really need to keep up...
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Do you do stand up?
I'd give up, if I were you.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Here we go.
I DO have a habit of throwing cr!P at individual's.
I also have a habit of heaping praise on individuals.
You also have a habit of being obsessed with me, as proved in your quote.
I'll live with it.
I hope the sand eventually comes out of your hair and ears.'"
So why did you say "Mata'utia MUST be the poorest centre (with a supposed reputation) since the disaster that was Terry Day, and he was 5h1te.
This is a typical example of trying to be a complete clever d!ck. WHY? try to be clever?
Did you play? Did you Coach? Is your contribution to rugby being a clever d!ck.
I do not think Peter Mat. deserves this. He cannot defend himself.
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| I've said if before and I'll say it again, we need to change the culture of our fanbase as much as the playing group. Stuff that I've been sent from social media(I'm not on any of it!)beggars belief. There are fans celebrating a plucky defeat. One cretin actually called it a good result! I've news for you pal, a defeat is NEVER a good result.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Do you do stand up?
I'd give up, if I were you.'"
Seriously Lefty, did you not read the interview with him the other week?
He basically admitted that he was assigned to do what he has done. Ruffle feathers, sort out the dead wood and bad apples and rebuild for the next 2 years.
Admittedly, I'd suggest sinking to 11th wasn't quite the depths they were expecting, but it sounds like the club wrote off this year before it started.
With that in mind, it'd be very harsh to now sack the bloke for doing what you told him to do, wouldn't it?
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"
I do not think Peter Mat. deserves this. He cannot defend'"
Fixed that for you
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Seriously Lefty, did you not read the interview with him the other week?
He basically admitted that he was assigned to do what he has done. Ruffle feathers, sort out the dead wood and bad apples and rebuild for the next 2 years.
Admittedly, I'd suggest sinking to 11th wasn't quite the depths they were expecting, but it sounds like the club wrote off this year before it started.
With that in mind, it'd be very harsh to now sack the bloke for doing what you told him to do, wouldn't it?'"
He (and his side under his instructions) loses rugby games.
It's a results business.
It can't be any simpler. Unless our board, in true Baldrick style, have a cunning plan to relegate us.
Thank #### for a weaker Toulouse side
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Fixed that for you
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The thing is he is one of our best defensive centres I have seen when the opposition forwards run at him. He loves the physical bit.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"So why did you say "Mata'utia MUST be the poorest centre (with a supposed reputation) since the disaster that was Terry Day, and he was 5h1te.
This is a typical example of trying to be a complete clever d!ck. WHY? try to be clever?
Did you play? Did you Coach? Is your contribution to rugby being a clever d!ck.
I do not think Peter Mat. deserves this. He cannot defend himself.'"
FYI, I'm NOT trying to be clever.
It's an honest observation.
Terry Day came to Wilderspool with a fantastic reputation at Hull. HE STUNK THE HOUSE OUT, with us
I can't remember thinking Mata'utia played well, whenever I've seen him. Countless other posters have said the same.
If a new coach brings a former player with him, I'm expecting GREAT things. He's been woeful
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"The thing is he is one of our best defensive centres I have seen when the opposition forwards run at him. He loves the physical bit.'"
Stick him in the second row then. When opposition half backs spread the ball wide he is constantly shooting out of the line or making a bad defensive read. Lost count of the number of tries we have conceded due to his defensive mistakes.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Stick him in the second row then. When opposition half backs spread the ball wide he is constantly shooting out of the line or making a bad defensive read. Lost count of the number of tries we have conceded due to his defensive mistakes.'"
Must admit I have thought ... he'd make a good second row.
But Conor Wrench's main weakness looked like his defence to me. So not surprised Mat. has played right centre most of time.
I think Mat. and Holmes have taken stick from those "who don't really watch the game" because of their obvious association with Powell. All sorts of "herberts" seems to throw cr!p at em.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Must admit I have thought ... he'd make a good second row.
But Conor Wrench's main weakness looked like his defence to me. So not surprised Mat. has played right centre most of time.
I think Mat. and Holmes have taken stick from those "who don't really watch the game" because of their obvious association with Powell. All sorts of "herberts" seems to throw cr!p at em.'"
I stuck up for matautia earlier in the season. He was excellent v cas(obviously had a point to prove), in my opinion he was man of the match and superb at stand off against Huddersfield(our best performance of the season)and was also very good against Saints. Since then he has performed appallingly, although he's not alone there. I'd still rather have him at half back than ratchford though!
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| Not sure that’s true. It was Dean who ran the show. Matautia was decent enough.
The one thing he’s done well is the hard yards, which was especially useful early when we getting battered in the forwards. He’s been less effective lately though.
Sounds like Hayes has gone well, which is great, but frustrating in equal measure. Anyone watching can see Ratchford isn’t a half back and yet he plays week in week out. I’m willing to give Powell a chance next season but he persists with Ratchford then he can go.
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| Whoever’s decision it was to give Stefan Ratchford a 2 year contract extension should be sacked before the bank holiday ends.
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