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| Do we pay Ospreys to take him off us?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Do we pay Ospreys to take him off us?'"
It might not have worked out as planned but that's bit disrespectful IMO.
We've had plenty worse some have come with reputations and for decent money. I think we all including Patton may have hoped for something better at least he didn't act the goat and if he leaves then good luck to him as far as I'm concerned.
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| INOUT Quote ="Uncle Rico"It might not have worked out as planned but that's bit disrespectful IMO.
We've had plenty worse some have come with reputations and for decent money. I think we all including Patton may have hoped for something better at least he didn't act the goat and if he leaves then good luck to him as far as I'm concerned.'"
Well said..fwiw I liked the lad and got some unjustified stick off some on Herr but then again most did and I include myself in that..good luck DEC hope it works out well for you
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"It might not have worked out as planned but that's bit disrespectful IMO.
We've had plenty worse some have come with reputations and for decent money. I think we all including Patton may have hoped for something better at least he didn't act the goat and if he leaves then good luck to him as far as I'm concerned.'"
Agree, if he leaves then I hope he goes on to have a good career in rugby, whether that be league or union. I've wanted him to do well for us and in spells he has, I'd take him as cover next year but salary cap may not allow for that. I don't know what Dec earns but if we need cap space for a new prop then Riley Dean will do as cover for me. He needs game time for sure, I hope the reserve grade really helps Dean and thewlis. They're the sort of lads who will benefit the most.
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| Maybe this is the big deal that Martin Offiah has lined up for him.
Stephen Myler went to RU and had a fine career, he ended up getting an England RU cap.
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| Maybe just maybe Price has finally accepted he isn’t the answer and let’s be honest he’s not going to leave a big gaping hole in the side but either way good luck to him.
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| Could be another eloborate plan to re-sign him from RU on megabucks in a couple of years with the RU salary cap exemption.
In all seriousness it is a shame as I am a believer that a successful team needs a stable 1,6,7 & 9 for a few years.
We have stumbled around with full back with with the Russell experiment until Ratchford has settled there. 9 is sorted but the halves have been a bit of a car crash with Sandow, Gidley, Brown, Smith in the last few years. I was hoping that Patton might develop his combinations on that left edge with Currie, Goodwin and Lineham whist he had the opportunity.
If he does leave then I don't think anybody could say that he wasn't given a proper chance.
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| I have a natural antipathy to slagging developing players off. I know in my own job I have made some absolute howlers when younger, and it takes time and patience to develop the skills required. The difference is our players make their mistakes in front of lots of people, there is a huge weight of expectation on some more than others, and it must weigh heavily.
Compare and contrast Patton and Philbin.
When starting a prop gets a few minutes here and there, nothing much is required other than don’t drop the ball and don’t miss a tackle. They can be nurtured and allowed to develop.
I’m not for one minute saying Patton is a world beater but a little compassion from the fans of the team he plays for wouldn’t go amiss.
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| The lad did it on the biggest stage against all the knockers....and without Austin.
Pound for lb Austin has been a right flop...yes I know he's class but his on field contribution has been about 20% of what I thought we might get, and has rnear zero social media criticism.
I proud of Patton and I can't wait till he rubs your noses in it as
He will be the most successful Warrington half in living memory if not ever.
Has Patton earned a contract reward?....well he deservesthe freedom of our town when we win the GF....
Do I want him at half back in 2020....the hell I don't, we've got Widdop!!
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| As others have said, not at the level we need to win SL. Good luck to him, hope he is successful in his next adventure.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"As others have said, not at the level we need to win SL. Good luck to him, hope he is successful in his next adventure.'"
Then he'll prove you and all the others wrong as he did at Wembley.
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| Playing well in 5 games (being generous) out of 100 does not prove anyone wrong - even if one of those games was a cup final. A cup final, in which he also invited an unlikely Saints comeback by smashing the ball full into touch when he had a WHOLE Wembley pitch in front of him to aim for.
Good luck to him, hope he does well but Duck just accept he simply isn't good enough as a starting half in the upper echelons of SL. 95% of his performances prove that to be correct. I should imagine there is only you and other members of his family that will be sorry to see him leave from a rugby perspective. Saying that - Matty Smith has made him look MUCH better.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Playing well in 5 games (being generous) out of 100 does not prove anyone wrong - even if one of those games was a cup final. A cup final, in which he also invited an unlikely Saints comeback by smashing the ball full into touch when he had a WHOLE Wembley pitch in front of him to aim for.
Good luck to him, hope he does well but Duck just accept he simply isn't good enough as a starting half in the upper echelons of SL. 95% of his performances prove that to be correct. I should imagine there is only you and other members of his family that will be sorry to see him leave from a rugby perspective. Saying that - Matty Smith has made him look MUCH better.'"
You mean when Patton was rushed down under pressure on the last to try and clear from out from well inside our 30 after all the forwards had been unable to do so, failing to give him some depth to clear away from the charging defence ...but that's all Patton's fault.
Have a word with yourself Ratty. You see what you want to see.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You mean when Patton was rushed down under pressure on the last to try and clear from out from well inside our 30 after all the forwards had been unable to do so, failing to give him some depth to clear away from the charging defence ...but that's all Patton's fault.
Have a word with yourself Ratty. You see what you want to see.'"
So do you.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You mean when Patton was rushed down under pressure on the last to try and clear from out from well inside our 30 after all the forwards had been unable to do so, failing to give him some depth to clear away from the charging defence ...but that's all Patton's fault.
Have a word with yourself Ratty. You see what you want to see.'"
You want a word with everyone that has a different view to you, and wish to make what you believe in to be a one person person crusade. People have different opinions, that's the way it is, just let it be as it doesn't change anything that's happened, or will happen.
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| A starting half back for a whole season amassed 2pts in the season long Guardian voting. Seems some people see what I also see.
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| And I read the same rubbish on social media about Patton...yet our coach, owners and players have a very different view from it.
Follow the pied piper.....or
On an extreme point....millions of people all believed Hitler because everyone else just followed.
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| The lad wins us a Challenge Cup and you can't give him a break til October.
You shame me.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"And I read the same rubbish on social media about Patton...yet our coach, owners and players have a very different view from it.
Follow the pied piper.....or
=#FF0000On an extreme point....millions of people all believed Hitler because everyone else just followed.'"
Now your implying everyone is a Nazi for having a different view to you.
That's extremely offensive.
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| No I didn't. I used it as a paraphrase how people can follow how ever extreme and wrong the view...and the millions that followed were innocent German folk.
Nazi is/was a political (loosely) party
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| No one is being horrible about him. Everyone appears to be wishing him well and disappointed that he's not turned out to be good enough. Coach and owner clearly agree he isn't up to it, he played well at Wembley but wasn't in the Wire dominated lance todd voting...so unsure how he won us the challenge cup? Your Nazi analogy isn't offensive it's just idiotic.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No I didn't. I used it as a paraphrase how people can follow how ever extreme and wrong the view...and the millions that followed were innocent German folk.
Nazi is/was a political (loosely) party'"
Paraphrase - what absolute nonsense. Your implying everyone that has a different view to you Nazi's, because you cannot deal with being in a minority. Your the one who should be ashamed, as your being very very offensive.
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| Perhaps idiotic and very extreme but reflects how masses get on the same band wagon.
34 players at Wembley and just one clear Lance Todd leader. No shame and no reflection of a poor performance of Patton.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Paraphrase - what absolute nonsense. Your implying everyone that has a different view to you Nazi's, because you cannot deal with being in a minority. Your the one who should be ashamed, as your being very very offensive.'"
Once again I DIDN'T.
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| Extreme and shocking paraphrase.
Not even a tickle of what Patton and his family have to read on social media...
I repeat...I'm shamed.
However the shat about Patton is by and large measured on RLFANS compared to Bacefook but still...much is unwarranted.
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