Steve Price is an awful coach but his players have to take some responsibility as well. Toby King is one of a number who aren’t anywhere near good enough for a team that wants to win a Grand Final. He’s a Wakefield type player, no disrespect to them.

Who is picking Luther Burrell... Is it the coach or the owners... He is so its not real... We could have had Akuola on the bench and given us a player with some go forward up the middle..

BMM aside we have a dreadful back row of Currie Clark and Davies...
We have one average to good centre in King....

And Austin is done... He looks completely uninterested. And I wouldn't be suprised to see him roll out the homesick card....

And Price should be sacked tomorrow.... Dreadful style of rugby and unable to pick a decent side and unable to motivate a team....

Look, all of our players are better than that performance, whether individually they're good enough to win the grand final or not. Nothing will change until we get a new coach, it needs to happen right now IMO.

I can’t give you an argument.
The confidence is zero.

In a game full of huge lows. This biggest low has to be making a badly out of shape pudding (Konrad H) look like Mal Maninga.

Harvey Livett must be thinking what he as done wrong

We won 11 out of our last 12 games under Tony Smith.

We've had a few of results like this over recent years . We once conceded 66 to Cas and won the GF in October

We didn’t particularly play anybody though.

I see what you did there.........crafty

Crying shame about Currie.

Sadly it’s looking like he’s never going to be anywhere close to the player he was.

I’d send him to Widnes where he might be able to make a break.

Having him and King next to each other means we lack any strike whatsoever down that edge.

Having footwork and ability to make a break is where he went wrong...

Like Tyson Fury....you can only beat what's put in front of you.

Those 11 wins were: Catalans (H), Leigh (H), Wigan (A), Widnes (H), Widnes (A), Catalans (H), Halifax (A), London (A), Leigh (H), Featherstone (A), Hull KR (H).

Out of interest, if the current side were to play those fixtures how many do you fancy us to win

10

We would struggle to beat ‘The Dog and Pheasant’ on a Sunday morning at the moment

Yeah, but you still had Burrow, McGuire, JJB, and McDermott as coach.

When you look at this current Warrington squad, do you think "come the playoffs you just know they will know how to win when it counts" which was the nagging feeling in the back of everyone's mind when Cas put 66 on you.

To be fair it was a bit more complicated than that, he had some great games for us and his support play was excellent but having a half-back with no kicking game whatsoever when we had very few kicking options was not sustainable

Considering that Myler did pretty well for us, there was little controversy among the fan base when he left. I think the feeling was that if he was a big earner we'd be better using the cap space elsewhere. Although it's fair to ask whether using it on Sandow/Roberts/Austin has given us more than Myler would have over the same period.

He is a good player but he's not a difference-making halfback, which is why he hasn't elevated Catalans or Leeds any more than he elevated us.

But if Leeds built a good side around him, or if he'd played for Leeds in their glory years in the Danny McGuire role, I expect he would have been one of SL's all time top try scorers.

I’m not taking you on when it comes to TS. You always had his back.

However I’m wondering now if we hear Chris Hill say he’s not worried and the SL isn’t won in.....in support of SP as he did TS.

Yeah I always had TS back but I agreed that it was time to make a change.

Although I reckon if we'd kept him, we'd have had about the same win-loss ratio as we did under Price. That coaching change hasn't made us any better overall.

Price was a repeat of the later TS era, rather than a return to the earlier TS era.

It's similar to Arsenal going from Arsene Wenger to Unai Emery.

When are you popping over to Redvee.net Duckie?

They’re all waiting for you.....

Yes.

Look the answer was obvious for both coaches, the pack isn’t heavy enough.

But we went for Dick Emery (If you’re under 50, ask your Dad/Grandad)

Agree Sally but it's a lot more like man United going from sir Alex Ferguson to David moyes! At least emery had a good cv.

Price has is orders to make our play more attractive. He doesn't know how to do this or get the players signed up to what he thinks he wants. They don't seem to have any confidence in him and his processes. As each game comes along they seem more confused. Back to basics is the only way, defend, defend, defend and take your opportunities as and when they arise. Build confidence and understanding, stem the flow of defeats. Get a new coach who understands the modern game and can command the respect of an expensively assembled squad.