We're passing the ball right on the game line and have done this consistently this season.
High risk play which isn't coming off for us. The forwards run from no depth and as a result we've little go forward with only Chris Hill and Bennie W making good yards for us.
Mick M looks like he is carrying injuries onto the pitch, can't fault his commitment but playing half fit in such an important position is compounding our problems.
How can we blame Myler for playing behind a beaten pack who consistently gift possesion back to the opposition? The fact that the forwards aren't doing the job puts more pressure on the backs to come up with scoring opportunities when we do get the ball. More pressure results in more mistakes. Bit of basics needed.

Don't know why lefty is ranting about scapegoats, not seen anybody blame Myler for the defeat. Never rated Myler when we signed him but he has improved quite a bit since signing, defensively and doesn't run down so many blind alley's as he used to, however his asset is his support play but for me it's not enough for a half back. If Briers is off he won't take control of the play.

Couldn't agree more and well put, one player wasn't to blame for the loss against St Helens, we were collectively very poor and St Helens were very good.

As fans we'll always have varying opinions on different players, some fans will like the style of a certain player where as other fans won't, thats called having an opinion, quite often on here a thread gets derailed and twisted round to suit someone elses own agenda.

Nobody has blamed Myler for our defeat against Saints, he's just one amongst quite a few of our squad that need to step it up there game, its not just Myler that people have pointed out for his below par performances, read around the forum and you will see that other people have mentioned the likes of Paul Wood, Gareth Carvell and even Moz who hasn't achieved his own high standards as yet. Michael Monaghan even got his own thread about his below par performance against Saints which is very rare, he's obviously not 100% right at the min either due to lack of fitness or he's still carrying a knock.

Myler is not Briers, he plays a completely different game to him. The problem on Friday was the ridiculous off-loading by some of the forwards, which constantly gave Saints ball and territory. It was just about impossible for either Briers or Myler to shine at all. Why is no-one knocking Blythe for 2 impossible offloads, Paul Wood for having a poor game, or Gaz Carvell for being completely out of touch.
There are some very short memories on here, and remember we've only lost 2 games.

Just had a peek at Mylers stats compared to Briers and well they surprised me, they stack up very well. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012

Just had a peek at Mylers stats compared to Briers and well they surprised me, they stack up very well. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012

I think plenty of people have ripped into Carvell, Wood and Blythe, most of the post-match stuff was about them.

Yes, we have Briers to do a lot of the stuff, but he won't be here for much longer. If we're to succeed, we'll need Richie to start shouldering some of the offensive load, we have Briers, Monaghan and Hodgson doing a lot of it, but they're only getting older, Myler will have to start stepping up and taking over games for us. Yes, we have many players not hitting their lefty standards right now, but Myler needs to up his game regardless of form, for me, he could be so much better.

I'm "ranting about scapegoats", because we have a thread citing ONE player, who was by no means the worse player on the pitch, within half an hour of the game finishing.
Where's the thread about Wood, Carvell, MonaghanM stinking the house out?
That's right, there isn't one.
Why MUST we have digs against certain players? We win as a team, we lose as a team. But in the massed ranks of the stands, we MUST have a player to vent our frustrations on.
Clarke
Wainwright
Penny
Sibbit (second term)
MonaghanM and King in their early days
are just a few examples from the last handful of years. There's been plenty more.

not once have i ever valued a opinion from you on the wire board! we still need an explanation as to why chris bridge should have been sent of v huddersfield?? come on put up or shut up!

Very rarely plays well in big games for me. Still improving as a player, his defence has improved just want to see more him with regards to creativity. He doesn't really strike me as a player yet who can 'boss' a game like Briers has done in the past.

Well to be a scapegoat somebody must blame him for the defeat, i've not seen anybody do that. I have seen most of the forwards take a bashing on most threads even if they don't have a dedicated thread (apart from monaghan). I think the thing with the players who were awful like Carvell for instance, we know because we have seen he can play much better he's a proven player. If he playe many more games like he did on friday, don't worry he will get his own threads.
Like i said Myler has improved as a player but he's not produced anything that i want from a half back on a consistent basis. He's not a bad player but he's not a great player either imo and it seems in others opinions and that's probably why he's got a thread about himself, he's not proven yet.

Well done, Myler.
We win as a team, we lose as a team.
Well done all.

I wrote this on another forum:

'I've stood up for Myler and I will do again, he's a very exciting player who spots an opportunity brilliantly. But tonight he was poor until the last twenty when the game was won. He needs to improve his choice and execution of pass and kick far better if he's to get anywhere near filling Briers' boots. However, I won't hear any rubbish about his defence, he puts his body on the line and comes up with the try-stopping play incredibly often for a bloke of his size.'

He made a couple of obvious errors tonight but was involved in four tries and put some great work in defence again. I thought he did ok tonight.

Got too agree Myler did make a couple of errors, but was involved in 4 tries and worked hard in defence.

The point about Richie Myler is he doesn't have a problem against far weaker sides but when the chips are down, against stronger opposition he quite often goes missing.

When he played for England he was fine against the likes of Wales and France but when the opposition got better he was largely dissapointing, its very similar with us. He needs to improve his kicking game as well, most of his kicks tonight were nothing kicks, Gareth O'Brien seems to have a fair better kicking game so i'm suprised that Myler seemed to kick quite a bit.

He did ok tonight, not spactacular but would we have expected anything less against a side thats conceding on average 40+ pts per game ?

glass always half empty, for some

As soon as we got regular ball, Myler looked great. Well done, lad.

Against that terrible edge D it would have been a real worry if he didn't do well....

I thought he had a cracking game - offence and defence. one or 2 execution errors but he was very vocal tonight.

Myler played well tonight. lets see more of it.

On the issue of Myler has there been any developments on his move out of the club yet?

Last year when Widnes got promoted there was talk on here that they would be whispering in his ear and tempting him to join and we would struggle to hold onto him once he saw what Widnes had to offer in SL and could want to join their bid for trophies?

And then in the off season he was supposedly loaning a teammates assets without paying rent and was going to leave, has this move gone through yet?

Is there an 'ignore poster' function on RLFans?

I'd like to use it for anyone who says 'D' when they mean defence.

Or anyone, who in conversation, prounounces it DEEEEEFENCE. You don't have DEEEEEEFENDERS, you have defenders

makes my poo itch, that one.

Fuck ing !

Some people on here baffle me. He was instrumental tonight and had as many errors as anyone on the pitch (and no more). His kicking at times wasn't amazing but I can't believe that Myler is this team's bangbuddy!

I suppose it is a testiment to the quality of the team that a promising youngster and genuinely class player like myler is the one catching for not kicking as well as briers or crab walking like ratboy.

He defends
He supports
He passes
He makes tries
He scores tries
What more do you people want?

Do players have to qualify to be made head scapegoat at the Wire & is there a waiting list for the job ? We've had Sullivan,Clarke ,Myler,,,who next ?

Ask Colin Fishwick/Cullen Is Pants/Panties (delete as appropriate). He was the one who said it was a done-deal etc bla bla bla.