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| Had a peep on the pie forum and this game as got them typing rubbish one clown wants wire kicking out of super league another wants us to play games behind closed doors some want a points deduction.. And some have brought up events from the past regarding our fans..didn't know Wigan were a squeaky clean club...anyway let the rfl decide the punishment and take it on the chin and move on
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| To be fair, there are a couple of them mentioning behaviour of catalans fans in the past and not chucking all the blame on wire. Think it was Nicky Kiss, who seems one of the reasonable ones.
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| Quote ="moving on...""Warrington fans are thugs"
I challenge anyone to not kick off if you have someone, that someone being ex-wire player Ben Pomeroy, throwing glass bottles into the wire fans. Then all the catalan fans throwing chairs and snapping legs off tables and using them as weapons. Warrington fans are thugs you all say? easy to jump to conclusions when they just show pictures of wire fans climbing into a corporate area. People should research why they were doing so.
Kenny Edwards urging the french fans on to kick it off whilst Hill was asking the Ref to blow up because his family was up in the Box.
Wire fans are thugs? Perhaps we're not angelic but the majority of the blame lands at the feet of the frenchies up in that box and Catalan as a club for not having adaquat stadium security.
And as for the Ref causing all the argo, though he is not responsible for the actions of the crowd, he does have to take some blame. the sheer frustration he caused from his lack of ability to control the game caused the away fans to vent their frustrations at the ref. The catalan fans then were throwing ale into the crowds and laughing. so in essence he does have a part to play.
Straight after the first fight he should have come down hard on any infringement and stamped his authority. but in the following sets after there were high shots, flops, knees in the tackle, wrestling in the ruck and he just let it slide. It's almost as though he thought "Oh, Hicks let the game flow in the semi-final and it made the game better... I think i'm going to do the same" the man is a complete embarressment to the RFL officials and has been for close to 10 years. How he is still employed as a full time Ref is beyond me.'"
There is a piece by a Cas fan in League Express today. He says that Cas fans had objects thrown down at them from the same box. They called the stewards over and pointed out the people responsible only to be told "we cannot do anything, they are very important people".
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"There is a piece by a Cas fan in League Express today. He says that Cas fans had objects thrown down at them from the same box. They called the stewards over and pointed out the people responsible only to be told "we cannot do anything, they are very important people".'"
Stewarding is an obviously problem in that stand, especially when there was only 3 visible stewards there on Saturday. I’m all for a carnival atmosphere at grounds but crowd safety has been massively overlooked, regardless of who started what, the policing of stands especially when there is a mix of supporters between home & away it needs to be addressed properly.
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| James Childs demoted to the championship this week - shock.
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| So to clarify, 90 percent of oppo fans said we were the house team and would cop a load of bans, didnt happenz catalans did.
Also, 90 percent of opposition fans said james child had a good game and it was the players at fault, and now he's been demoted.
I think theres a lot of ppl from the weekend that owe us a lot of apologies
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"So to clarify, 90 percent of oppo fans said we were the naughty person team and would cop a load of bans, didnt happenz catalans did.
Also, 90 percent of opposition fans said james child had a good game and it was the players at fault, and now he's been demoted.
I think theres a lot of ppl from the weekend that owe us a lot of apologies'"
What garbage
What 90% of people said is you can't blame the ref for your fans climbing into exec boxes to attack people (or anything Catalans fans did), and responsibility for that rests with the individuals concerned.
I don't think I have read one comment that said Childs had a good game, or that Wire were worse than Catalans on the pitch.
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| Really?? Because I've read LOADS saying we were a disgrace on the pitch - equal to Catalans, plenty saying Child got most things right and had a decent game and only ONE Warrington fan directly correlating the violence in the stands with Child's performance.
Not expecting any apologies (why would they?) but the behaviour of opposition fans on here this week has been a disgrace - yet to see ONE reasoned assessment of events. I think the results of the investigation into crowd violence will be rather interesting as well.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Really?? Because I've read LOADS saying we were a disgrace on the pitch - equal to Catalans, plenty saying Child got most things right and had a decent game and only ONE Warrington fan directly correlating the violence in the stands with Child's performance.
Not expecting any apologies (why would they?) but the behaviour of opposition fans on here this week has been a disgrace - yet to see ONE reasoned assessment of events. I think the results of the investigation into crowd violence will be rather interesting as well.'"
So you agree that 90% of people said Childs had a good game and that 90% of fans said Wire were THE naughty team?
Or do you agree that is utter balls?
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| I'd say around the 90% mark of Non-Wire fans YES. I've hardly seen much condemnation of Catalans play at all. Spear tackles, knees to the head, pre-meditated high tackles and encouraging crowd violence took second play to Chris Hill gobbing off a bit.
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| It is possible Child has just been taken out of the firing line because people keep blaming him for adults behaving like idiots. He should never have had to deal with half the things he had to deal with last week. He deserves a quieter week to be honest. The RL disciplinary page is full of "penalty sufficient" for shoulder charges, high shots, and bad tackles for both teams. Catalan may well have instigated it as williame is facing a ban for a spear tackle in the 7th minute, but Chris Hill was pinged for late contact in the 14th minute, and punching in the 15th minute, so they werent angels a for 79 minutes and dragged into a fight by catalans on the 80th minute.
For what its worth, thinking back on the game, catalans were worse disciplined than warrington, but warringtons discipline was rather poor too.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Really?? Because I've read LOADS saying we were a disgrace on the pitch - equal to Catalans, plenty saying Child got most things right and had a decent game and only ONE Warrington fan directly correlating the violence in the stands with Child's performance.
Not expecting any apologies (why would they?) but the behaviour of opposition fans on here this week has been a disgrace - yet to see ONE reasoned assessment of events. I think the results of the investigation into crowd violence will be rather interesting as well.'"
Ive just started seeing non wire fans this morning, start to change the narrative from chris hill and wire were terrible to well actually, 'yeah its a typical ty catalans performance'
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| Quote ="Angelus"It is possible Child has just been taken out of the firing line because people keep blaming him for adults behaving like idiots. He should never have had to deal with half the things he had to deal with last week. He deserves a quieter week to be honest. The RL disciplinary page is full of "penalty sufficient" for shoulder charges, high shots, and bad tackles for both teams. Catalan may well have instigated it as williame is facing a ban for a spear tackle in the 7th minute, but Chris Hill was pinged for late contact in the 14th minute, and punching in the 15th minute, so they werent angels a for 79 minutes and dragged into a fight by catalans on the 80th minute.
For what its worth, thinking back on the game, catalans were worse disciplined than warrington, but warringtons discipline was rather poor too.'"
You're missing the point, both sides had poor discipline, however only 1 side got penalised for it during th3 majority of the game, hence why it boiled over
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Not expecting any apologies (why would they?) but the behaviour of opposition fans on here this week has been a disgrace - yet to see ONE reasoned assessment of events. I think the results of the investigation into crowd violence will be rather interesting as well.'"
It's been the same on social media as well. The immediate out-pouring of faux-outrage from opposition fans and 'some' journalists was embarrassing, yet all too predictable. They literally couldn't wait to label us as 'hooligans' with the 'well, what do you expect from them. They're all scum' taglines. Or the 'there at it again' sensationalist comments. It must be great supporting teams that have never had the issue of social disorder amongst fans.
There are two sides in every argument, and the causes of the problems were not just down to a small minority of drunken yobs trying to get in to the hospitality area. There was plenty of provocation from the Catalan fans, and we weren't the first team to visit there that were subjected to it. A letter published by a Castleford fan in the League Express this week is evidence.
Every club in every sport has it's idiots, not just Warrington. And anyone currently sat up on the splendid moral high ground are going to look a bit silly if, and when fans from there own clubs step out of line.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"You're missing the point, both sides had poor discipline, however only 1 side got penalised for it during th3 majority of the game, hence why it boiled over'"
I just think the players (on both sides) have to accept some responsibility for that outcome, and i wish the coaches had said something similar instead of blaming each other and the referee. Just one player or coach to say "we shouldnt have behaved like that".
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"I'd say around the 90% mark of Non-Wire fans YES. I've hardly seen much condemnation of Catalans play at all. Spear tackles, knees to the head, pre-meditated high tackles and encouraging crowd violence took second play to Chris Hill gobbing off a bit.'"
Blablabla
Completely bull,
Warrington players are unblemished
Warrigton fans are sage in the stand without insult Sam Tomkins for example, without throw watter bottle on the catalans players
Very good resume
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"So to clarify, 90 percent of oppo fans said we were the naughty person team and would cop a load of bans, didnt happenz catalans did.
Also, 90 percent of opposition fans said james child had a good game and it was the players at fault, and now he's been demoted.
I think theres a lot of ppl from the weekend that owe us a lot of apologies'"
Don’t forget some of the press too..Rod Stud & Martyn Sadler on Twitter both praised Childs’ management of the game and was not at fault for what went on during the game.
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| Quote ="lindon"Blablabla
Completely bull,
Warrington players are unblemished
Warrigton fans are sage in the stand without insult Sam Tomkins for example, without throw watter bottle on the catalans players
Very good resume'"
Wow and you said other post were bull pooh, good lord
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| Quote ="karetaker"https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12196/11779318/referee-james-child-should-not-pay-price-for-disgraceful-catalans-warrington-brawl'"
Jesus wept this guy is a moron.
"This week, the only real thing that has come out of that game is that the referee from the match was dropped."
Nope, there was 12 disciplinary citations and they are investigating what happened in the stands.
"He's now going to referee a game in the division below, which I think is disgraceful."
Taking away what happened in the stand, he had a really bad game. Pathetic to deem that 'disgraceful'.
"Both clubs really should be investigated."
They are, you idiot.
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| It’s no surprise really that Phil Clarke would have an opinion different to most others.
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| Unfortunately, the perceived carnival atmosphere that goes along with this fixture for all visiting teams gives all visiting supporters the encouragement to have fun in the sun with a few pints & can easily get in the way of level headed behaviour in the stands. Perhaps the Catalans club management should think of improving security between their vip area & that stand. Probably armoured glass frontages to prevent contact either way between opposing fans.
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| Catalans Dragons forward Kenny Edwards has been cleared of a charge of crowd incitement.
The New Zealander was accused by the Rugby Football League of inciting fans at the end of a tempestuous Super League match between the Dragons and Warrington in Perpignan last Saturday.
The match was marred by fighting on and off the pitch as tempers flared at the Stade Gilbert Brutus and Edwards was seen at one point being restrained by his club captain Remi Casty.
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