I care Sally...I care.

Couldn't give a

As a big town and one of the biggest rugby league towns, we do have a duty to try to ensure the game is played in schools and that there is a thriving community game. If you have that, there is a good chance you will get SL-quality players coming through, and that is great news.

I don't think you will ever get a born and bred Warrington 17, but it is certainly an aspiration worth aiming for. If the town with the 4th best side in the country can't be d supporting the youth game, you've got no chance of Barnet and Birmingham producing the players of the future.

I'd rather we had the best scouting network in the game, that picked up all the elite talent before our rivals did. Where our Academy was known as being the best place for young players to develop their game and find a route in to the first team, so the best young players have an automatic preference for us rather than them.

If the scouts discover the next once-in-a-generation player, and he was born in Stockport, I don't want us to be saying "not got the right postcode on his birth certificate, might affect our heritage, lets leave this one to Wigan/Saints/Leeds".

While it’s nice that a local lad plays for the team I don’t see it as a “be all and end all”. Where would it stop, only locals allowed to support the team? I’m a glory seeker (that went well) from N-le W, will I be banned?

You're contaminating our terraces Hook, get back to St Helens.

Many junior youth team coaches around the town with tell you that our local kids have been overlooked by Warrington W for years preferring to scout those from Wigan.
Not me just saying...I know a few of them.

Agreeing with Duckie there (rare) I would also add that historically players from outside the town have got signing on fees and more cash. Having said that I cannot see many players from Warrington in other sides...

But I can’t understand what they say! Eg what does “forrard “ mean? Is it a swear word? They seem to shout it whenever the opposition score.

This and it dates back a long time. I remember the warrington try outs when I was a kid those going through had been decided before a ball had even been touched.. No wonder our local schools n teams are not up to much if the local pro team does not pay any attention to them or turns up for the odd day to pay lip service.

I would love a team with more warrington born players in it bu I don't think that I want us jot to be considering players because they're jot from the correct area.

But once again this won't happen whilst as a club were more interested in what the young lads in Yorkshire are doing

There is currently a team at rylands who are one of the best junior sides i have ever seen. They have been beaten once in 4 years. 9 of their team have been snapped up by saints. Who is responsible for looking at the junior talent in our town?

Exactly this.

We are. Just and have a look at the parks on a Saturday and Sunday morning and see what the kids are playing.

At my lad's age group, there were 7 divisions of football (11 a side). Granted there are quite a few out of town teams but there were many more Warrington based football teams than Rugby teams.

Growing up in the late 80's/early 90's, my age group had two football leagues. When I started playing Rugby, there was a choice of two teams and they ended up merging as one team folded.

In my 20's, I was playing Saturday and Sunday league football. Again there were enough teams to support five or six leagues and only a handful or RL teams.

I also find that if I'm talking to people out and about, at work or in pubs, there are a lot more football fans than rugby fans.

Good points raised LB, and the club need to help to get more kids playing via local schools and amateur clubs.
It wouldn't surprise me if there were more kids participating in cricket than RL in and around the town.

Well cricket is a traditional summer game.

Correct. We've moved to the summer so that we don't compete with football (whether this is in Sky's schedules is another debate) or other winter sports.
The challenge for PA is how we progress the numbers of Warringtonians within the team. Latchford Bob has made many points regarding football getting kids attention, which is a sport that RL has to compete against at grass roots level. I was trying to make a point that cricket was another. It's going be a difficult job for the game as a whole, not just PA.

Why?

I would have thought the challenge for PA was to provide Steve Price with a stream of talented young players capable of addressing the planned vacancies (succession planning) in the 1st team whether they were born in Dallam, Denver, Dijon or Darwin.

Don't disagree with you, it matters not where they come from. I was giving my thoughts on PA's comments in respect of striving towards an all locally born side. It's just a utopian ideal and not feasible, but it doesn't mean that we should not make every effort to nurture any potential talent on our doorstep. Difficulty is, and this applies to the rest of the RL world, there's a lot of sports and other pastimes to compete with. There are very few genuinely talented players left in the game now, which is making the sport far less interesting.

I completely agree, but wasn't it always the same in the past? When Sean Long was coming through (for example) there was pro RU, Premiership football, central contract cricket, pro golf, pro athletics and lots of pastimes.

I think the problems in our game are that

1. The top home grown talent now seems to head to the NRL, depleting our domestic game.

2. The development of youngsters seems to focus on physique and power at the expense of guile and skill. Big, athletic and powerful lads at second row, prop are ten-a-penny but how many Longs, Maguires, Robys or Clarks do you see? The relegation of the loose forward in the modern game to that of a 3rd prop only serves to illustrate the point. But this is not the fault of the clubs but of the nature of the modern game. Robots bashing robots for 20 minutes before a fresh robot is brought on meaning more robots are needed than any other position.

Fair points, and taking Sean Long as an example, he very likely played RL due to his father's involvement in the sport. If he hadn't have made a career in RL, then it would most likely have been in another sport. We need, somehow, to make the sport of more interest to the youngsters who currently have no interest in the game, to widen the search for talent.

Couldn't agree more that first and foremost were looking for athletic, powerful and quick players for all positions. How we have managed to lose the guile, clever and cunning handling of the half backs, hookers and loose forwards in this era baffles me. Lee Briers is involved in the coaching side of the game, and there must be many others of his ilk, so why does it appear that his skill set isn't being passed on? At wembley we were shocking at passing out of dummy half, which is absolute basic handling. With Catalans successfully winning the cup due to being best at robots bashing robots, the future looks like more of the same, sadly.

Re Briers....it was.
Briers can be clearly heared saying to our players as they prepared to exit the tunnel...
"Relax lads and enjoy the game"!
The biggest load of bollox he has ever issued....

When he ought to be saying.
""Get out there, and rip into them."!!!

The one area that Morgan Smith was obviously strong was his passing from dummy half.

I am baffled by this. Passes to 1 foot or more above first receivers head, denies the first receiver the time needed to do anything plus the chance of error.

I would have thought this was the sort of thing that could be nailed in training, surely? It's not a recent thing either.

...nailed when you are a junior?

This shoddy first play and the fact that it's game after game is really unforgivable

What I don't get is how in England it's always presented as a binary choice: either an athlete with limited skill or a creative genius who lacks physical attributes. The Aussies creative players have superb physical attributes as well! Andrew Johns was built like a loose forward and could king hit people in the tackle. He played hooker at international level for a while and was a tackle machine. And yet he had the complete passing and kicking game. Look also at the strength and speed of Thurston, Cronk, Cameron Munster. These guys have bags of talent but they are superb athletes and physically they aren't lacking against anyone.

Also if you watch the NRL you see amazing feats from their outside backs, unlikely catches to keep the ball in the field of play, one handed offloads and blind passes at full pace, kicks in to space on the run. Their outside backs are built like tanks and incredibly fast but they seem to have these freakish ball handling skills as well.