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| On Mcnamara I'm somewhere in between banana-man and world beating coach.
Would we want him as replacement to Price, would Saints have him??... No.
to me, its like how some would like to have had, Challenge cup winning Coach and nothing else, Jon Kear as Wire Coach and others wouldn't.
He deserves his moment but that's it.
Lets not forget that when the dust settles on this era of Wires we will always list Kevin Brown and Tyrone Roberts as half backs in our "worst ever 13". I don't think Mcnamara produced some outstanding coaching display we were just awful and they managed to beat us. just....
if he's that good and his knighthood is in the post I assume he'll win all his remaining games then?
Castleford Away
Saints at home
Wakey away
Hull away
Huddersfield at home
or most likely just two...
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| To be fair, Cats' form has rollercoastered since their inception.
They've peaked at the right time for a trophy, and good for them. Let'ss see if he's not been sacked in 2-3 years, then we can judge.
Let's not forget, he suffered from the British disease, a few years back. In the driving seat, in the back end of a World Cup Semi-final, and we managed to concoct a heroic defeat, with seconds to go. Plucky old loser. Would any other nation put up with failure. No .
If he wins something else, then he'll get proper plaudits, and good luck to him
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Yes he has done well, but that team and that coach were getting pummelled on the pitch early season, notably by us when we nilled them.
McNamara saved his bacon by recruiting Drinkwater. Not the classiest half I've ever seen, not especially quick but a killer kicking game, a sweet pass and ppeerless organiser. He has been a major catalyst and without him Catalans wouldn't be half the team they have become.'"
Bit more to it than Drinkwater.
They had ore season disruption. Everyone of their french players were in the world cup whereas us and Saints had less than 1/2 a dozen.
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| The change in Cats fortunes came half way through the season when they were bottom of SL. They played like McNamara's teams have done for the past ten or more years. Good early game play, maybe in the lead then a complete collapse. Hence why they were bottom.
Then the resurgence, discipline changed and so did their defensive structure. The attitude was totally different and so was their play.
I for one don't think McNamara is capable of coaching to that level of ability. I don't think its his input that has made them so good after such a dramatic turnaround.
Who is coaching the team is up for anyone's thoughts. I just don't think that its McNamara. Someone else at the club is coaching to that level, not McNamara.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"The change in Cats fortunes came half way through the season when they were bottom of SL. They played like McNamara's teams have done for the past ten or more years. Good early game play, maybe in the lead then a complete collapse. Hence why they were bottom.
Then the resurgence, discipline changed and so did their defensive structure. The attitude was totally different and so was their play.
I for one don't think McNamara is capable of coaching to that level of ability. I don't think its his input that has made them so good after such a dramatic turnaround.
Who is coaching the team is up for anyone's thoughts. I just don't think that its McNamara. Someone else at the club is coaching to that level, not McNamara.'"
Huh?
They have powered up the league and won the cup. What more evidence do you require?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Bit more to it than Drinkwater.
They had ore season disruption. Everyone of their french players were in the world cup whereas us and Saints had less than 1/2 a dozen.'"
Warrington had 9 players in the world cup. Cats had 8. Casty & Simon were not in the world cup.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Warrington had 9 players in the world cup. Cats had 8. Casty & Simon were not in the world cup.'"
But thanks to you pal the point is clear...Wire and Cats had disruptive pre season. It too Cats a little longer to hit the straps. Drinkwater having a significant effect...but not complete.
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| To clarify, I said the aquisition of Drinkwater was a major catalyst for their revival not the sole reason.
Swop Roberts for Drinkwater yesterday, we win.
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| Drinkwater had a poor game IMO
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Drinkwater had a poor game IMO'"
Wish he played that poor for us.
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| I thought that Drinkwater's kicks through were poor ,but that otherwise he played well . The recruitment of Edwards and the return of Gigot from suspension and of Langi from injury have been vital .We have no injuries at present and the team is much fitter . You played pretty well and Brown is a very good player . Roberts is not .
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I guess you mean the playoffs?'"
It should have read "higher up in the super 8s".
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| Quote ="Father Ted"The change in Cats fortunes came half way through the season when they were bottom of SL. They played like McNamara's teams have done for the past ten or more years. Good early game play, maybe in the lead then a complete collapse. Hence why they were bottom.
Then the resurgence, discipline changed and so did their defensive structure. The attitude was totally different and so was their play.
I for one don't think McNamara is capable of coaching to that level of ability. I don't think its his input that has made them so good after such a dramatic turnaround.
Who is coaching the team is up for anyone's thoughts. I just don't think that its McNamara. Someone else at the club is coaching to that level, not McNamara.'"
That's a hilarious post.
"I have formed an opinion, and would rather concoct a theory about the invisible man doing the coaching than change it in light of the evidence."
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| Quote ="just_browny"That's a hilarious post.
"I have formed an opinion, and would rather concoct a theory about the invisible man doing the coaching than change it in light of the evidence."'"
Ha ha
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Warrington had 9 players in the world cup. Cats had 8. Casty & Simon were not in the world cup.'"
In fact the Dragons had 14 players involved in the World Cup and therefore not available for pre-season training and who were still recovering after the World Cup ended.
As well as the eight French players they also had Tierney, McIlorum, Williame, Langi, Moa and Aiton all involved for their own national teams.
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| Catalans main problem early in the season was that they had no half backs. Imagine how Warrington would get on without Brown and Roberts, actually bad example you’d probably be better off.
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| Quote ="Damian"In fact the Dragons had 14 players involved in the World Cup and therefore not available for pre-season training and who were still recovering after the World Cup ended.
As well as the eight French players they also had Tierney, McIlorum, Williame, Langi, Moa and Aiton all involved for their own national teams.'"
Thanks Damian...you are more than a match for the our resident 'try and prove you wrong-un'!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Thanks Damian...you are more than a match for the our resident 'try and prove you wrong-un'!'"
I stand corrected but you did say "Everyone of their French players were in the world cup" which they were not.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"I stand corrected but you did say "Everyone of their French players were in the world cup" which they were not.'"
I did. Not that I meant it. Should have said 'very nearly everyone' but then you'd get bored.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I did. Not that I meant it. Should have said 'very nearly everyone' but then you'd get bored.'"
Maybe you should have said Warrington had all their Scottish & Irish involved in the world cup.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"icon_frustrated.gif
Maybe you should have said Warrington had all their Irish Scottish & Irish involved in the world cup.'"
Nar. I couldn't care less.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Nar. I couldn't care less.'"
Sounds about right of most of your posts.
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| Come on boys, before this thread closes
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Come on boys, before this thread closes'"
I gave him the last post. That'll be it until he starts again.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I gave him the last post. That'll be it until he starts again.'"
Time to stop listening to your rubbish & hit the ignore button....like most people have done.
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