That’s very disappointing from King not to say unprofessional. We are paying him a top wage and you can’t have one player not showing commitment and supporting the team ethic. If he is not happy a player exchange deal might be the best solution. Do Catalans need centres….McMeekan anyone.

If she is playing up again she can go on loan to Barrow. We don't need players not committed to the cause. Wouldn't make my top 10 Warrington centres anyway.

Are people reading too much into that very short and, albeit vague, article? From my reading SB just needs to know if King feels physically ready to go in a big game. Either way it's better than last year when Powell couldn't hold his own pee and chose to vent about fans, players, etc rather than keeping mum. At least SB is discrete if there is a wider issue with King.

Anyway, that aside, here's hoping Stains take a walloping tonight from what is a very 'physical' Catalans side. A few HIAs here, maybe a dodgy sin binning/ban there. Does this make me a bad person?

Given the stance that Sam Burgess made at Souths when dealing with Latrell Mitchell, and subsequently it looks like he was right all along, I can`t see Burgess taking any crap from ANY of our players.

We made the mistake of loaning King out to Wigan last season when we should have allowed Wakefield to take him.

If he is isn`t committed to the Wire then I agree a 1 month initial loan deal with Barrow could give him time to reflect.

1 Jordan hasn’t a brother, probably referring to the Batchelors.
2 he suffered a couple of niggling injuries last season
3 he was out on loan for a couple of years under a certain coach and lost
two years of development, in my opinion would have been playing at a
higher level at a bigger club before now.

Did you watch the video, though? I definitely got the feeling that Burgess didn't want to say too much, but was happy to point out that King's behaviour wasn't what he'd expect from a 'modern day' player.

I get the feeling he likes King enough as a 'personality', but I'm also certain that he won't make room in the team for a player that's not going to put themselves on the line every week for the cause. If King wants to dictate when he plays, despite the ridiculously high salary he's on, he can do it at Hull. Tony Smith seems to be giving the Hull players a lot of freedom to p*** around at the moment anyway.

Does anyone have a link to the video please

I have just watched the video. Blimey stop feeding on every little word that Sam says ... otherwise he will start being like every other coach and say nothing. Easy to stir up crap for a player. Move on.

https://youtu.be/GDMveI0A8uw?feature=shared I dont like the inference i must admit.

https://youtu.be/GDMveI0A8uw?feature=shared I dont like the inference i must admit.

Coach at ease with his players and having a bit of a tease. I might be wrong. As a coach if a player says he's injured that's it ... but you might call him a wimp. Not a big deal for me.

I can understand your view, I just think there's a lot more to come from him and at the moment some of his decision making is iffy particularly within set plays. His ' high ball under pressure' doesn't inspire me with confidence and I can imagine him and Thewlis being bombed all match long by Saints.

My post wasn't talking much about the top 5 as such, more about his positional play that they picked up on - particularly in relation to where Williams was.

FWIW I agree with you top 3 but Field and Welsby agead.

It's absolutely nothing to do with the latter and absolutely everything to do with the former. He's a whiny prima-donna who spent last season on loan at a team that ultimately ended up winning Super League, he's now had to return to a club he quite obviously doesn't want to be at (good job he's not an actor as he'd be a pretty **** one!) and because he's had to come back, he's moping around the place and has done sod all since he's been back. Every time he takes the field his expression is of someone who's being forced at gunpoint to play, and when he scores, his celebrations are about on par with someone who's dog has been run over. It's now gotten to the stage where he's feigning injury just so he doesn't have to play.

I'm with Wire71 on this; if he's not committed to the cause, then give his shirt to someone who would be willing to bleed for the club. I'm more than happy to drive the 212 miles down to Warrington, and then drive him to wherever the hell he is so desperate to go. The sooner the club gets shut of him, the better.

He is not even that good a centre. Certainly not as good as he thinks he is. I wouldnt lose any sleep if he went.

He`s about the same speed as Ratchford, who is dead slow nowadays and selecting Ratch solves the goal kicking issue for now.

It`s make your mind up time for King now, most of the fans accepted him back but they will all jump on his back if he s in the nest again.

Exactly! I wouldn't want a player with his attitude here even if he was world class. The fact that Wigan fans say he was the ultimate professional whilst he was there makes it even worse. He has shown a massive lack of respect for the club that is paying his over inflated wages. I hope Middleton pays up his contract and sends him on his way.

There is no way that Middleton will give King a pay-off.

I think we might be reading too much into a slightly odd presser with Sam. It looked to me that it was just an attempt at humour at King's expense which came across a little awkward.
Unless anyone knows differently of course.

Valid points but I wonder if Williams not playing gave Dufty more freedom? Certainly they need more game time together as the timing was just a bit off onFriday.

On the King thing, I’m coming round to the view that SB was teasing him (and us).

That’s certainly how I read it - a little surprised at the response tbh. Players pick up injuries, Burgess saying he’ll see what King says in the week is probably more a nod to Burgess trusting his senior players to let him know if they feel fit enough to play.

Not a chance. If King is that desperate to go, then HE and he alone should fork out the money to cover the rest of his contract. Then we can get rid of him, he can go to wherever the **** he is desperate to go, and we can get someone who actually wants to play for the club.

I reckon Sam Burgess will smile & reflect on how easy it is to be misunderstood.

Could be right, it was just Burgess's cryptic comment about King being like ( I'm paraphrasing here ) one of the old-school, strange type of personalities that you used to get back in the 80s and earlier. That doesn't sound like a Burgess type 'next man up' kind of guy. I've not nothing against King personally, and hopefully it's all taken out of context, but I want a 'Hayes' type personality in that back line.

It was "he should have been a player in the 80s". I bet he didnt Wigan or Peet around.