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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"It is the floating voters that they have alienated, who will not be able to tell the difference between them and the Tories....These people will simply fall into the Tory or Labour camp, seeing the Lib Dems as simply a puppet for the largest party.
Make no mistake, any success this coalition has will be credited to Cameron, especially by the Pro-Tory media.'"
Im not so sure, with the size of the egos in politics whoever has the idea will be shouting from the rooftops 'that one was mine' |
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No, that's pretty accurate, but it's got naff all to do with socialism.
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No, that's pretty accurate, but it's got naff all to do with socialism.
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Please all those who went into the polling stations and were confused when they didn't see 'CLEGG' on the polling card.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Not a chance....The Lib Dems are now consigned to a distant 3rd place forever after this deal with the Tories.
It is actually a godsend for the Labour Party, who will now recover all those disillusioned voters who voted for the Lib Dems and now who will feel soiled that they have actually helped to install a Tory administration.
As long as Labour get the right leader ( maybe 1 of the Millibannds, but definitely not Balls), and conduct a dignified, but effective opposition to the coalition, then they may even get back into government at the first attempt.
The Lib Dems should enjoy their moment in the sun, as from now on they can look forward to a regular thrashing in the polls, as people realise that British politics is truly a 2 horse race, and that a vote for Clegg's lot is no different to placing your X next to the Conservatives or the Labour party.'"
You could reverse NuLiebour for the Tories in the above if Labours craven attempt to remain in power had succeeded - at least there was a bit of dignity remaining within some of the Labs to read the writing on the wall and push Gordon out of the door gracefully.
Quote ="The Angry Pirate"It is the floating voters that they have alienated, who will not be able to tell the difference between them and the Tories....These people will simply fall into the Tory or Labour camp, seeing the Lib Dems as simply a puppet for the largest party.
Make no mistake, any success this coalition has will be credited to Cameron, especially by the Pro-Tory media.'"
And these will be the floating voters that flocked to the Libs from the Labs in their droves? The Libs increased their share of the vote by 1%, Labs share fell by 6.2% so those angry and dissullusioned floating voters will be flocking back to Labour will they - all 68,000 of them??
Will admit that Clegg played a blinder and got more than he should have been given but Cameron was seemingly desperate to get in the door and get on with it/in to power. What happens next will happen but surely to God in can't be any worse than more of the "........ let's simply chuck money at it crap" that Blairs mob came up with.
[size=85No more Mandleson!! The Labour Party must retain confidence in Ed Miliband for the next few years at least, and all figures being talked about as potential leaders must do so emphatically also, as not to appear sneaky and disloyal. If with a year to go to an Election the Labour Party is not poised to take power again, then will be the time to ask questions, but as the article I've attached from the Guardian discusses and the paragraph included highlights - the Labour Party under Ed Miliband is in a pretty strong position and the party's tainted reputation for economic competence will heal over time.
As for the Coalition - this time last year it was the Lib Dems who were public enemy number one, with the Tories perfectly content to allow them to feel the full force of public anger. However at present we are seeing initial signs of the Conservative Party unravelling: Liam Fox and his Corruption, A rebellion on Europe (An issue which I think he will be forced to face again soon enough), Troubled relations with the French (We may not like them, but we need to work with them, especially in tough economic times), Stupidly insensitive comment in reference to Hillsborough, and I could be here for another week reeling off a list of mistakes and critiques of the Coalition Govt.
Ultimately - we heard David Cameron become practiced in his snide remarks during his years in opposition, promising a new, cleaner politics and he still acts the same old spineless way. He is the Prime Minister but still he is too content to pass the blame and make snide (even sexist) remarks in the Commons and pass the blame with the now getting very weak excuse of 'It's Labour's fault'. I'd say he is still acting like he's running for election/in opposition instead of actually leading, a message i'd also apply to Barack Obama.
I think the Coalition will last its course, out of necessity more than in blissful happiness, as I think if in two years time the country is still in dire straits and the cuts are being applied even more callously then the Lib Dems (unquestionably) and even the Tories will be in big trouble. You fight a general election on your record in office and Mr Cameron's at present is full of criticism.
Guardian Article: www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... d-miliband
'In an election now, the leading psephologist Professor John Curtice reckons Labour could win outright. After the boundary changes, they would still be the biggest party in a hung parliament, gaining most from the Lib Dem collapse. It worries many in Labour ranks that as yet they have made no inroads into the Tory vote, but even so Curtice still gives Labour the winning edge. To be ahead at all is, he reckons, not bad only 18 months from a car-crash election, and he remarks on Labour's uncharacteristic freedom from serious internal discord.'
'Labour is in a stronger position than many within it quite realise. Apart from the two Eds, others often have a nervous air, lacking an instinct for the jugular or vociferous enough outrage at the injustice being inflicted. Christmas will be hard as many more families see lost jobs. I will be back in January, hoping that Osborne and Cameron will be forced to turn back and go for growth – not in windy words but in deeds.' |
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Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"As daft as this sounds, Cooper's relationship with Balls, allied to his standing in the last government may be her undoing.'"
Can't see that - I think she's a strong enough character on her own to be able to distance herself from her marriage, as a certain Hillary Clinton has been able to do. The Labour Party must retain confidence in Ed Miliband for the next few years at least, and all figures being talked about as potential leaders must do so emphatically also, as not to appear sneaky and disloyal. If with a year to go to an Election the Labour Party is not poised to take power again, then will be the time to ask questions, but as the article I've attached from the Guardian discusses and the paragraph included highlights - the Labour Party under Ed Miliband is in a pretty strong position and the party's tainted reputation for economic competence will heal over time.
As for the Coalition - this time last year it was the Lib Dems who were public enemy number one, with the Tories perfectly content to allow them to feel the full force of public anger. However at present we are seeing initial signs of the Conservative Party unravelling: Liam Fox and his Corruption, A rebellion on Europe (An issue which I think he will be forced to face again soon enough), Troubled relations with the French (We may not like them, but we need to work with them, especially in tough economic times), Stupidly insensitive comment in reference to Hillsborough, and I could be here for another week reeling off a list of mistakes and critiques of the Coalition Govt.
Ultimately - we heard David Cameron become practiced in his snide remarks during his years in opposition, promising a new, cleaner politics and he still acts the same old spineless way. He is the Prime Minister but still he is too content to pass the blame and make snide (even sexist) remarks in the Commons and pass the blame with the now getting very weak excuse of 'It's Labour's fault'. I'd say he is still acting like he's running for election/in opposition instead of actually leading, a message i'd also apply to Barack Obama.
I think the Coalition will last its course, out of necessity more than in blissful happiness, as I think if in two years time the country is still in dire straits and the cuts are being applied even more callously then the Lib Dems (unquestionably) and even the Tories will be in big trouble. You fight a general election on your record in office and Mr Cameron's at present is full of criticism.
Guardian Article: www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... d-miliband
'In an election now, the leading psephologist Professor John Curtice reckons Labour could win outright. After the boundary changes, they would still be the biggest party in a hung parliament, gaining most from the Lib Dem collapse. It worries many in Labour ranks that as yet they have made no inroads into the Tory vote, but even so Curtice still gives Labour the winning edge. To be ahead at all is, he reckons, not bad only 18 months from a car-crash election, and he remarks on Labour's uncharacteristic freedom from serious internal discord.'
'Labour is in a stronger position than many within it quite realise. Apart from the two Eds, others often have a nervous air, lacking an instinct for the jugular or vociferous enough outrage at the injustice being inflicted. Christmas will be hard as many more families see lost jobs. I will be back in January, hoping that Osborne and Cameron will be forced to turn back and go for growth – not in windy words but in deeds.' | |
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The Labour Party must retain confidence in Ed Miliband for the next few years at least, and all figures being talked about as potential leaders must do so emphatically also, as not to appear sneaky and disloyal. If with a year to go to an Election the Labour Party is not poised to take power again, then will be the time to ask questions, but as the article I've attached from the Guardian discusses and the paragraph included highlights - the Labour Party under Ed Miliband is in a pretty strong position and the party's tainted reputation for economic competence will heal over time.
