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| +1 from me. Ratchford is no doubt at the tail end, but he's done some outstanding stuff this year. Both creatively and defensively. Deserves his place. Can't await for the explosiveness of Wrench though, so maybe Mata'utia gets to move to second row as and when.
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| Quote ="easyWire"+1 from me. Ratchford is no doubt at the tail end, but he's done some outstanding stuff this year. Both creatively and defensively. Deserves his place. Can't await for the explosiveness of Wrench though, so maybe Mata'utia gets to move to second row as and when.'"
I can't see Wrench being rushed back from that sort of injury. If May was quoted as being when his recovery is complete, then it's going to be at least June before he's anywhere near first team ready and, even then, he's going to be rusty.
Basically, I wouldn't be putting too much expectation on Wrench's shoulders for a long while yet.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"
Basically, I wouldn't be putting too much expectation on Wrench's shoulders for a long while yet.'"
Absolutely not. As Currie showed, it's hit and miss whether players can come back from that type of injury and still fulfill their potential.
Obviously with Currie it was a double bow, which is more proof that time needs to be taken with these injuries.
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| Quote ="karetaker"If I remember from a thread last year we were in for him and it was Jon Wells that mentioned it as well.'"
Apparantley we're keen again and making enquiries. Only just turned 29, would be a very good signing IMO.
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| I like him but his injury record isn't the best is it?
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| Hopefully he has a blinder tomorrow, good luck to him - unrecognisable from the player of last season. According to the Powell interview we spend a LOT of time now looking at recruitment (thankfully) and there is no point rushing his replacement. I'd be happy with Tanginoa despite injury record concerns. Is his injury record bad? I seem to think it is but am not sure.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Apparantley we're keen again and making enquiries. Only just turned 29, would be a very good signing IMO.'"
It would only be a swap deal. Wakey want a middle, who you giving up?
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Hopefully he has a blinder tomorrow, good luck to him - unrecognisable from the player of last season. According to the Powell interview we spend a LOT of time now looking at recruitment (thankfully) and there is no point rushing his replacement. I'd be happy with Tanginoa despite injury record concerns. Is his injury record bad? I seem to think it is but am not sure.'"
I'd be comparing wakey's s&c staff to ours. Got to be some benefit to not doing it on a shoe string
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"It would only be a swap deal. Wakey want a middle, who you giving up?'"
Surely we're still in credit for giving you Rob butler last year
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Surely we're still in credit for giving you Rob butler last year'"
Think you might be a little more generous this time.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Is his injury record bad? I seem to think it is but am not sure.'"
His full seasons:
2020 - 21 games
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He's injured at the moment but during his time at Wakefield, he's probably played over 80% of their games. So not bad at all really. For example, since his first full season in SL, he's played more games than Chris Hill and Mike Cooper.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Think you might be a little more generous this time.'"
I can’t see Warrington offering you a forward and if that means missing out on the player, then we will surely look elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Think you might be a little more generous this time.'"
Ben Harrison, Tom Lineham, come on - we’ve been generous to the extreme
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"I can’t see Warrington offering you a forward and if that means missing out on the player, then we will surely look elsewhere.'"
That depends on how much your coach wants Tanginoa i guess.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Ben Harrison, Tom Lineham, come on - we’ve been generous to the extreme'"
We still have plenty of credit in the bank for giving you Nat Wood & Benny Westwood for peanuts 20 years ago!
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"We still have plenty of credit in the bank for giving you Nat Wood & Benny Westwood for peanuts 20 years ago!'"
OK.
Thanks for them, but we also gave you Anthony England and Rob Butler.
Tanginoa will be acceptable to make up for your deficit.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"We still have plenty of credit in the bank for giving you Nat Wood & Benny Westwood for peanuts 20 years ago!'"
peanuts? we gave you good money and had to get rid of our dancers to pay for that.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"OK.
Thanks for them, but we also gave you Anthony England and Rob Butler.
Tanginoa will be acceptable to make up for your deficit.'"
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| Fitzpatrick should be bull whipped naked around Vicky park for letting this lad go without first recruiting a replacement.
He was one of our best props… the other being Vaughan.
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| Quote ="OnTheBeach"Fitzpatrick should be bull whipped naked around Vicky park for letting this lad go without first recruiting a replacement.
He was one of our best props… the other being Vaughan.
Big Mistake Karl.'"
Mikaele wanted to leave before the season started, KFP convinced him to keep going and we’d try to support him and his family - he did. He then asked to go home again, we asked him to stay with us until McGuire was back - he did. In that time he played fantastically. I think Mikaele was very professional and tried to help us out during a difficult patch injury wise.
If word gets round we don’t allow NRL players to go home if they have issues or they are not happy, we’re not going to get many good players coming over to us from the NRL.
What I would be critical of KFP for is signing someone as quickly as possible and bringing the wrong guy in. We are well on course to finish top 4 and we know better than most that SL titles aren’t won in April.
We wait for the right guy.
Also, had we signed someone average and they had helped us just get over the line against a Wigan side who weren’t great, and a busted Saints side, we would be sitting pretty thinking we were unbeatable. As it is we’ve been shown we need to move up a couple of notches yet - that’s valuable.
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| Quote ="OnTheBeach"Fitzpatrick should be bull whipped naked around Vicky park for letting this lad go without first recruiting a replacement.
He was one of our best props… the other being Vaughan.
Big Mistake Karl.'"
Disagree. What could KF have done? Held him against his will? We've just been unlucky with injuries in the forwards, it's just bad luck, simple as that. Vaughan, Bullock, Harrison, Dudson, Kasiano, Philbin, McGuire, Thomas and Whitehead is plenty.
It's the back line where we've been neglectful. Mata'utia is not good enough and it's probably going to be his last season. Ratchford, too, is not good enough, especially to play centre. Neither possess any pace and we badly need to use the Mikaele money on a new centre, even with Wrench returning from injury soon.
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| last night showed the bad side of ratch at centre, i dont think he's been particularly good during the winning run either.
pants decision making and lots and lots of moaning and begging of the ref.
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| The only thing KF and club could have done is ensure TM's replacement was on board before the start of the season, but the cap may have prevented that.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Mikaele wanted to leave before the season started, KFP convinced him to keep going and we’d try to support him and his family - he did. He then asked to go home again, we asked him to stay with us until McGuire was back - he did. In that time he played fantastically. I think Mikaele was very professional and tried to help us out during a difficult patch injury wise.
If word gets round we don’t allow NRL players to go home if they have issues or they are not happy, we’re not going to get many good players coming over to us from the NRL.
What I would be critical of KFP for is signing someone as quickly as possible and bringing the wrong guy in. We are well on course to finish top 4 and we know better than most that SL titles aren’t won in April.
We wait for the right guy.
Also, had we signed someone average and they had helped us just get over the line against a Wigan side who weren’t great, and a busted Saints side, we would be sitting pretty thinking we were unbeatable. As it is we’ve been shown we need to move up a couple of notches yet - that’s valuable.'"
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