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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Comparing Draper to KissKam as a CEO is akin to comparing a BMW to a Ford. You get what you pay for…..'"
so what did we get with draper?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"so what did we get with draper?'"
A new more cartoony wolf badge. Superleague got a new S logo as well when he was with them. Top drawer performance that. I'm sure he did plenty of other things well.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"so what did we get with draper?'"
The same 3-year Warranty. We just couldn't afford the servicing.
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| Quote ="CW8"A new more cartoony wolf badge. Superleague got a new S logo as well when he was with them. Top drawer performance that. I'm sure he did plenty of other things well.'"
Indeed. I'm led to believe that was a rather expensive exercise. Lots of money on branding consultation and little to show for it. Maybe he did more work with top-line potential sponsors, who knows?
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| Quote ="easyWire"Indeed. I'm led to believe that was a rather expensive exercise. Lots of money on branding consultation and little to show for it. Maybe he did more work with top-line potential sponsors, who knows?'"
Was he involved with the Emirates shirt deal? That was great work to be fair, although the team and club was a lot more marketable back then. Get the team performances right and the crowds and sponsorship opportunities will follow (note the team we had playing in the bensons for beds kits does go against this statement). The CEO has a much easier job if he has a successful team as a backdrop to all of their dealings.
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| Quote ="easyWire"So if KFP says Powell has six games, he’ll need to qualify that. Is it six wins? Six solid performances? Sounds like a throwaway quip to satisfy the masses. Not very professional. The best reply would have been to quietly smile while showing some empathy, and apologise for not being able to discuss club matters.
Maybe it’s best to leave former players to other roles in the business, such as player management. Making statements like that in public just defers blame and puts more pressure on the team.'"
NURSE!!!!!
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| Quote ="CW8"Was he involved with the Emirates shirt deal? That was great work to be fair, although the team and club was a lot more marketable back then. Get the team performances right and the crowds and sponsorship opportunities will follow (note the team we had playing in the bensons for beds kits does go against this statement). The CEO has a much easier job if he has a successful team as a backdrop to all of their dealings.'"
Nope he didn't, I know Emirates were cutting back on sponsorship but apparently draper's stewardship didnt even try yo convince them to hang around as sponsors.
This was surprising as he wanted to go all in with them, and get rid of every other advertising partner in the stadium, so it looked cleaner.
He spent a lot of money on consultants, and on a website that's as good/bad as the previous one.
I'll keep pointing this out when ppl point out that kf is an unqualified unsuitable ceo.(he may be).
But we had the longstanding chair person of the LTA who was given the boot, and also the fella that brought Wembley in horrendously over budget.
He left us in a position financially, left here quickly for a bigger job and then left sl/rfl quickly for another job.
He was 'qualified', just seemed to be very good at spending other peoples money.
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| I wasn't impressed by Draper, same as I was never that convinced Deakin was the saviour he was thought of by some.
Andy Gatcliffe was the guy for me - didn't spend his life talking to the media, just got on with things behind the scenes and made the club more professional on and off the field.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Re: the earlier mentioned provision of information from the club, I wouldn’t be too surprised if the information is accurate. Karl Fitzpatrick was in Warrington on Sunday night telling everyone that would listen, including me, that Powell has 6 games.
I don’t think the club is a fortress of protecting information, especially if the people at the top don’t protect it themselves.'"
If there's even an ounce of truth to this rumour that Fitzpatrick is mouthing off to anyone who is interested about Powell's future and a supposed 6 match trial period, then if I was Powell, I'd be telling Fitzpatrick to stuff his job, and I'd be resigning tomorrow.
If that is even close to being true, then Fitzpatrick needs removing from his job ASAP, simply because a supposed professional sports club cannot be conducting its business in such a laughably amateur way.
The days of hearing club business down the pub, or from your local taxi driver really should have ended decades ago. It probably highlights why we are seen as such an amateur run enterprise.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I wasn't impressed by Draper, same as I was never that convinced Deakin was the saviour he was thought of by some.
Andy Gatcliffe was the guy for me - didn't spend his life talking to the media, just got on with things behind the scenes and made the club more professional on and off the field.'"
It was Deakin who brokered the deal with Tesco to build the HJ for us, and for that he deserves total respect.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"If there's even an ounce of truth to this rumour that Fitzpatrick is mouthing off to anyone who is interested about Powell's future and a supposed 6 match trial period, then if I was Powell, I'd be telling Fitzpatrick to stuff his job, and I'd be resigning tomorrow.
If that is even close to being true, then Fitzpatrick needs removing from his job ASAP, simply because a supposed professional sports club cannot be conducting its business in such a laughably amateur way.
The days of hearing club business down the pub, or from your local taxi driver really should have ended decades ago. It probably highlights why we are seen as such an amateur run enterprise.'"
Completely agree and I can say with absolute certainty that it was said, I was there. I’m not a staunch “anti-kiss cam” or anything like that, but I think the club’s ambition from the terraces needs to be matched in the boardroom. This feels like an over-correction from corporate Roger.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Completely agree and I can say with absolute certainty that it was said, I was there. I’m not a staunch “anti-kiss cam” or anything like that, but I think the club’s ambition from the terraces needs to be matched in the boardroom. This feels like an over-correction from corporate Roger.'"
DOUBLE NURSE!!!!!!!!
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| Somewhat confused, is Jake Clifford touted as our new CEO or have I missed something by only reading the last 3 pages?
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Completely agree and I can say with absolute certainty that it was said, I was there. .'"
I'm genuinely curious to know the context of this conversation - was this said during some official fan's forum, or was this loose talk after a few pints with a few mithering fans, looking for an exclusive to brag about later to their mates?
If it was the former, then I can accept that to an extent. If it was the latter, then it's simply unforgivable and Fitzpatrick needs firing immediately.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I'm genuinely curious to know the context of this conversation - was this said during some official fan's forum, or was this loose talk after a few pints with a few mithering fans, looking for an exclusive to brag about later to their mates?
If it was the former, then I can accept that to an extent. If it was the latter, then it's simply unforgivable and Fitzpatrick needs firing immediately.'"
Even if it’s the former, I’m not convinced by that sort of leadership. He’s the CEO of an organisation with a relatively high public profile (in the context of top-division sport). I’d expect him to possess the necessary skill set to appease fans without disclosing corporate decisions and policies that clearly belong behind closed doors. Unless of course Powell has agreed to this and the club are about to make some press announcement concerning a six-game trial. I seriously doubt that though.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I'm genuinely curious to know the context of this conversation - was this said during some official fan's forum, or was this loose talk after a few pints with a few mithering fans, looking for an exclusive to brag about later to their mates?
If it was the former, then I can accept that to an extent. If it was the latter, then it's simply unforgivable and Fitzpatrick needs firing immediately.'"
Definitely the latter, it was 10 ish on Sunday night in Warrington town centre. Granted there were friends in common between his group and mine, but still it was just lads in a bar chatting.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Definitely the latter, it was 10 ish on Sunday night in Warrington town centre. Granted there were friends in common between his group and mine, but still it was just lads in a bar chatting.'"
Again….the bloke is a clown and was promoted WAY above his experience and capabilities. I’m even boring myself now let along you lot……enough from me, I need a lie down.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"
The days of hearing club business down the pub, or from your local taxi driver really should have ended decades ago. It probably highlights why we are seen as such an amateur run enterprise.'"
Isn't The Duck a taxi driver?
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Definitely the latter, it was 10 ish on Sunday night in Warrington town centre. Granted there were friends in common between his group and mine, but still it was just lads in a bar chatting.'"
Then one of 2 things probably needs to happen here,
1. Unless this is an arrangement between Powell and the club, that Powell is happy to have used as juicy info around the bars of the town, then I think Powell's role is no longer tenable, and to maintain any self-respect, he needs to resign.
2 Fitzpatrick needs to be sacked, purely on the basis that it's becoming increasingly clear that he hasn't the skills to hold such an important job.
Personally, for the club to be taken seriously, then option 2 HAS to be the choice and it should be done immediately.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Then one of 2 things probably needs to happen here,
1. Unless this is an arrangement between Powell and the club, that Powell is happy to have used as juicy info around the bars of the town, then I think Powell's role is no longer tenable, and to maintain any self-respect, he needs to resign.
2 Fitzpatrick needs to be sacked, purely on the basis that it's becoming increasingly clear that he hasn't the skills to hold such an important job.
Personally, for the club to be taken seriously, then option 2 HAS to be the choice and it should be done immediately.'"
I imagine the club is probably aware of employment law and is unlikely to sack somebody on the basis of an anonymous comment on an online forum.
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| What’s even more interesting is that KFP seems to have read the ‘How long does Powell have?’ thread on this forum and based his ‘6-game’ policy on the general consensus of the fans. Now we know the power we have, let’s start a thread on the catering.
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| Quote ="easyWire"What’s even more interesting is that KFP seems to have read the ‘How long does Powell have?’ thread on this forum and based his ‘6-game’ policy on the general consensus of the fans. Now we know the power we have, let’s start a thread on the catering.'"
Item #127 on the list of things that need improvement, the list is sorted into numerical order also.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"
Andy Gatcliffe was the guy for me - didn't spend his life talking to the media, just got on with things behind the scenes and made the club more professional on and off the field.'"
Exactly.
Saints have Mike Rush as their CEO. No gimmicks they do the talking on the field.
Saints play in finals every year and very rarely pick a wrong coach,
Cunningham an exception. That must of been a heart before head decision. Is that why they haven’t named Wellen’s as yet, even though I am expecting it.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"I imagine the club is probably aware of employment law and is unlikely to sack somebody on the basis of an anonymous comment on an online forum.'"
If you owned a very high profile company though, and one of your senior employees was rumoured to be revealing company policy during weekend p!$s-ups with his mates and, most importantly, are doing so to potential customers of your company, wouldn't you be slightly concerned though, especially as the policy appears to be one that is undermining arguably the most important employee at your company?
Now, my initial response is obviously based on Barbed Wire's claim being true and its likely that they will be treating claims like this as total b0ll0cks. But, and its a large but, if it were true, then action would have to be taken - that's all I was basing my posts on.
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