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| These are appalling considering the available designs we saw on the forum a while back. Is it anything to do with the supplier limiting the designs to a design and different colours for the clubs, it appears to have happened with Puma in the football?
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| Said it time and again. ISC just recyle the same designs over and over again. the 2015 away was an exact reversal of the 2014 home, this years was a bolder version of the 2013 home (FTIW I actually think P&B vertical stripes has been our best looking kits in SL), this years is the same as 2016's home minus a white v. The away is an absolute disgrace.
We're primrose and blue. not blue with yellow trim.
Do we have a rolling contract with ISC? Because if not they need binning off. I'd like to see a design by Canterbury or even Addidas.
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| Worst kit since Cullen got his crayons out in 1995. Saying that I don't care if we win the treble whilst sporting that cheap looking tat with silly sponsor. We've had nice kits with a worldwide brand for a sponsor in the last few years and we've been ruddy awful to watch.
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| Really disappointing. You can see not much effort has gone into designing them kits. Not one to blow my own trumpet but me and Wirefan mocked up better kit designs in 10 minutes.
Worst we've had in years.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Really disappointing. You can see not much effort has gone into designing them kits. Not one to blow my own trumpet but me and Wirefan mocked up better kit designs in 10 minutes.
Worst we've had in years.'"
Shirt designers are never going to win, they are never going to be able to please everyone - be it the style, colour, collar, sponsor etc. it just will never fit the ideal.
If shirts don't change, albeit slightly or drastically, fans will never buy it because they will view it as a waste of money because it's the same as last year, and therefore clubs lose out on the revenue.
I take your point completely though, especially with the away shirt, it just looks like a plain black shirt with some yellow on the sleeves (similar to something Saints had a few years back). As much as I don't like the new Wigan away shirt, at least they have tried to do something different with it, while keeping the home shirt as traditional as they can.
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| I would like us to establish a theme for the home shirt that can be tweaked each year (Saints Red Vee for example) and then variations for away.
When you start to about with the clubs colours and home shirt it's just another chip away at the tradition and soul of the club.
Also the addition of so many "stuck on" sponsorship labels, the shirt looks cheap and the brand is damaged. Are we that desperate for a few bob ?
As a previous poster had said, there were much more visually more appealing and creative designs posted on this site, by amateurs.
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| I really like what Wigan do with their shirts.
Wigan tend do a 3 year rotation with their home shirts - traditional (classic c&w hoops), modern (more contemporary c&w hoops), something different (eg their 2011 "faded" one, the diagonal one from 2014, or last years one which the fans voted on).
2018 is back to traditional c&w hoops after last years "something different".
I like this as it strikes a good balance between keeping the traditionalists happy vs the fans of more interesting shirts, you know what you're getting as a fan, the club seem to put some thought and effort into the designs, and lastly, its a bit of fun.
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| I always feel that teams home shirt should be (slight) variations on a theme - red vee, cherry & white hoops etc - as you say, it helps the club to come up with an identity and a brand, which if becomes successful, players, supporters, investors buy into.
How often do you see football teams veer too far away from the standard home shirt? Man United & City, Liverpool, Everton, Newcastle etc. all stick with that same identity for the home shirt, but then seemingly let the designer go off on a tangent for the away shirt, either with colour or design, or both - and this is what the RL clubs should be trying to do, as that is what they are competing with in terms of merchandise sales.
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| Quote ="TimperleySaint"I always feel that teams home shirt should be (slight) variations on a theme - red vee, cherry & white hoops etc - as you say, it helps the club to come up with an identity and a brand, which if becomes successful, players, supporters, investors buy into.
How often do you see football teams veer too far away from the standard home shirt? Man United & City, Liverpool, Everton, Newcastle etc. all stick with that same identity for the home shirt, but then seemingly let the designer go off on a tangent for the away shirt, either with colour or design, or both - and this is what the RL clubs should be trying to do, as that is what they are competing with in terms of merchandise sales.'"
Totally agree. The home shirt/kit should totally identify the team playing. This is the brand. So in a space of a few years the logo has changed to mixed reviews and this monstrosity of a shirt.
But none of it will matter if we play well.
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| Quote ="TimperleySaint"Shirt designers are never going to win, they are never going to be able to please everyone - be it the style, colour, collar, sponsor etc. it just will never fit the ideal. '"
Do you think this shirt will please a majority?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Do you think this shirt will please a majority?'"
Not the majority, but as some have said on here, they do like it and I'm sure others will too.
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| You'll struggle to beat the 2002-2003 Miller one we had with the hoops IMO.
That should be the basis for any of our kits IMO. A blue or primrose background with blue or primrose hoops.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Really disappointing. You can see not much effort has gone into designing them kits. Not one to blow my own trumpet but me and Wirefan mocked up better kit designs in 10 minutes.
Worst we've had in years.'"
well,i had heard last year (and weirdly despite the club having more leaks than the titanic, its not been mentioned on here) apparently we had Under Armour lined up as a kit supplier for this year, which fell through very late on, and we went back to ISC who pulled something together at the last minute, which might explain the late(ish) delivery to the store.
It might also explain why these are clearly 2011 away with the yellow chevron removed, and the 2016 home with the white band removed.
For the list of good actions that the club have done in the off season, i think this is now a black mark.
Though, not surprisingly, you've got weapons on facebook saying that they love both kits. I don't remember being that blindly loyal to the club.
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| on the Warrington Worldwide website the models are the four who are in Aussie land playing for England, is it photo shop genius or were the kits ready a while back?
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| It's a kit. Who gives a flying fudge. It's not bad, just boring. Over the top reaction to everything on here.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"on the Warrington Worldwide website the models are the four who are in Aussie land playing for England, is it photo shop genius or were the kits ready a while back?'"
ISC are an Aussie company, so probably easier to get the initial batches over to them to do the photoshoot - plus good PR to have our England boys promoting the kit so two birds one stone
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"It's a kit. Who gives a flying fudge. It's not bad, just boring. Over the top reaction to everything on here.'"
Small group of fans discuss kit in thread about discussing the kit shocker.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"Small group of fans discuss kit in thread about discussing the kit shocker.'"
Discuss the kit all you like. But the descriptions of said kit are frankly akin to children throwing a paddy over the wrong flavour of ice cream. "Garbage" "Worst EVER" etc. It's juvenile.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Discuss the kit all you like. But the descriptions of said kit are frankly akin to children throwing a paddy over the wrong flavour of ice cream. "Garbage" "Worst EVER" etc. It's juvenile.'"
Well I'm glad you've not in charge of marketing or income at the club, as it's ones of the main lines of revenue, which is why a lot of ppl in recent weeks were peeved as it didn't seem to be available in time for ppl Xmas shopping.
Now it's out, And it's not been well received. It's lost income. On top of I would imagine lower membership numbers following last year.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Discuss the kit all you like. But the descriptions of said kit are frankly akin to children throwing a paddy over the wrong flavour of ice cream. "Garbage" "Worst EVER" etc. It's juvenile.'"
When I walked out of Pirates of the Caribbean 5 and proclaimed it was the worst one yet, my wife didn't berate me and say I was overreacting and being juvenile. Because I wasn't. It was a straightforward opinion I was giving on a relevant topic.
If people on here had said "This kit is so bad I'm buying one just to burn it in the street, along with my season ticket, because I refuse to watch them this year as long as they're wearing that kit" I'd agree with you that people are being juvenile and overreacting.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Well I'm glad you've not in charge of marketing or income at the club, as it's ones of the main lines of revenue, which is why a lot of ppl in recent weeks were peeved as it didn't seem to be available in time for ppl Xmas shopping.
Now it's out, And it's not been well received. It's lost income. On top of I would imagine lower membership numbers following last year.'"
Totally agree, if i'm being expected to pay £48 for the latest replica shirt, i would like to see a bit of thought going into it for gods sake. If because of this lack of thought i choose not to buy then my club looses out on income.
Some of the ideas posted on here were really nice, why can the club marketing team not do the same.
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| The seemingly large percentage of people not liking these designs leads me to believe there were people at the club not liking them either. So the question is how on Earth do these designs get through design review let alone released as the offical kit?
We've had some very nice looking kits in recent years and these are a big step down for me, not helped by the big green sponsor. My biggest gripe about the home shirt is its just a bad version of the 2016 one (which I really liked) and a bit of a lazy effort. Looks a bit 'championshippy' too. I suppose the away one isn't too bad as it is just a simple no nonsense design, but the main sponsor is an eye sore.
Personally i was hoping for a traditional white one ala 2009 for example. Ah well.
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| Quote ="wire-flyer"The seemingly large percentage of people not liking these designs leads me to believe there were people at the club not liking them either. So the question is how on Earth do these designs get through design review let alone released as the offical kit?
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We probably used brand/design consultants in the past - remember those that had to be bannished.
No matter how much money our club has or has not, we always appear to do things half d.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"well,i had heard last year (and weirdly despite the club having more leaks than the titanic, its not been mentioned on here) apparently we had Under Armour lined up as a kit supplier for this year, which fell through very late on, and we went back to ISC who pulled something together at the last minute, which might explain the late(ish) delivery to the store.
It might also explain why these are clearly 2011 away with the yellow chevron removed, and the 2016 home with the white band removed.
For the list of good actions that the club have done in the off season, i think this is now a black mark.
Though, not surprisingly, you've got weapons on facebook saying that they love both kits. I don't remember being that blindly loyal to the club.'"
If the club came out and just said...look we've been shafted by the new supplier and we've had to knock these up in a day....
I'd back the club and buy a shirt...otherwise feck if I'll buy these without good reason, they are shat.
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| Quote ="Wires71"We probably used brand/design consultants in the past - remember those that had to be bannished.
No matter how much money our club has or has not, we always appear to do things half d.'"
Good point. KF said at the forum last year that we were paying a lot of consultants and specialists instead of doing things themselves before he took over. It has shown on a few occasions. Even the launch the other night was a bit half d and cringeworthy. I'm all for saving a bit of cash but if you're rubbish at something it's better letting somebody who knows get on with it
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