So what you Wire fans are saying is only trophies won after 2009 actually count??

What a strange lot you really are.

OK then 2008

What are you going on about? It doesn't matter how far back in time you go. We've won more trophies than Saints in the last few years but are getting stick off them for failure. They're thick as, that lot.

Wire and saints, both new stadiums. Our trophy room is full of bling, theirs is full of cobwebs.

I think your rugby finished when you lost in the 1st of how many grand final losses?

And your chant "it's always your year" is aimed at us?

Nice to see there isn't any knee jerk reactions after one game, as for trophies, Saints are trophy less since not having KC, long and scully in their team. Still far more successful and bigger than us. I'd put us in a Man City type category and Saints in a Liverpool type.

I'm a HKR fan and I rate us as just as big as a club as you.

And we've been champions a lot more recently than Wire.

Bit rude, I've been alive in the time saints won the league... Not so much for Liverpool

Why would we want to compare our game and our teams with football?

Won't get any bites with tiny bait like that.

1/10 for the effort though.

Well let's have a look at one or two facts here.

Warrington's crowd in the first round of games this season was barely 2000 more than ours.

And you had the advantage of playing a club who is a very near neighbour. Warrington and St Helens are just 10 miles apart I believe.

On the other hand, Leeds is still a fair distance from Hull.

Also, last time HKR's was Champions was nearly 30 years ago. Wire's was nearly 60 years ago.

I'm jealous now. You can also claim to have been relegated and we can't match that - it's just not fair.

Worst still..we are the only team to have had continuous top flight rugby league since 1879.

Incorrect. Try again!!!

Saints have played in what was a division 2, although never been relegated.....I think.

Incorrect again. The only time Saints 'AND LEEDS' have not played in the same top division is when the league was split into Lancashire and Yorkshire Leagues. Interestingly, Castleford were the only other team in this elite group until they were relegated a few seasons ago.

P.S. The split occured during the first world war. At the same time 12 aside rugby was introduced due to a lack of players.

Saints have been relegated (in the early years of Rugby League) They would also have been relegated again but RL went to one division.
It's surprising how many Saints fans don't know their clubs history.

No im not

Now Now Rogues. Don't tell lies!!!

Saints fan in "talking s**t" shocker......

The last club to have been relegated for the 1st time in their history was not Castleford but Widnes in 2005.
And a bit unfairly too.

I think Cas saved Widnes from relegation the season before when Cas slipped up and got beat by Wakefield on the last day.

I'll tell you what we'll do. If Saints have never been relegated I will give £25 to the Steve Prescott foundation, if they have you give £25 to joining jack. Is that o.k.

I suggest you check with Sadfish who runs this site and is part of the Saints heritage site.

Rouges would know, he was in Huddersfield when the games split

Now you're wrong.

Saints were relegated earlier than that, in 1900-1901 season we failed to win promotion into the first set of national leagues, and in 1901-1902 season finished 3rd in Lancashire to be promoted into what was division 1. However we tanked and finished 2nd to bottom and were relegated. We were promoted again straight away the following season but once again did poorly in division 1 - but saved on a technicality to not be relegated again.

This is the only time I think (maybe someone who was there can confirm - rogues I'm looking at you

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