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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Put your dummy back in.. Ben and Sam are good mates of the pitch, as confirmed by them both in different interviews.. Get a grip.'" Who mentioned Ben?!?!
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| Quote ="Langer7"I used to love it when the fletch would be hammering the oposition and the players would give a bit back / interact a little. You need to get thicker skin mate.'"
That's not the point, there professionals and they should act like it, when a crowd is frustrated like we was for him to do that in front of the stand is just causing trouble and wasn't needed.
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| Quote ="Team Maverick"Needs to get rid of his attitude and silly panto footballer style acting!
Got a mate in the England set up and he said when all the squad meets up for training and what not, he said the 2 Tomkins brothers walk around with their heads up their owns arris', too good to mingle with the rest of the squad...
He said he got on with alot of players from other teams who he's never dream of getting on with unless he'd met them off the pitch but Sam and Joel was a pair of arrogant t@ss pots... Great talent but complete pr@cks!'"
Brilliant and also a massive pack of lies.
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| Quote ="Team Maverick"Who mentioned Ben?!?!
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Seeing as you said both Tomkins wouldnt speak to anyone else in the squad.. and Ben Westwood was in the squad.. Well I guess you mentioned him.
Stop making lies up because you hate Sam because he tore you apart yesterday and appreciate what a cracking player he is.
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| Great player who will only get better. Still can't stand him tho
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Seeing as you said both Tomkins wouldnt speak to anyone else in the squad.. and Ben Westwood was in the squad.. Well I guess you mentioned him.
Stop making lies up because you hate Sam because he tore you apart yesterday and appreciate what a cracking player he is.
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Dint say anyone so id go back and read from the start, then come back with your funny smiley fonts
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| Quote ="jonh"Brilliant and also a massive pack of lies.'"
Wheres the lie?
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| Quote ="i hate pies"people will start to think youve got a gay crush on sam tomkins the way you have to counter act every single un-positive comment made against him. clearly got a biased opinion and cant accept he isnt perfect.
(before you bite my head off, hes a fantastic player, but not perfect, and not the best in the world)'"
Haha. Im just trying to work out how Ron seems to know no one in NRL would take him and why he only chooses not to answer certain questions. Ive not said he was the best in the world but the fact that the Aussies saw him as our threat was a compliment to how they rate him and he is a massive talent!
Im not argueing hes perfect but trying to work out why hes singled out for stuff when there are plenty other players who do exectly the same but its accepted as ok!
He got stick off Warrington fans and laughed back. Plenty of players do the same. If Tomkins had done what Nat Wood did, when he ran down under the stand do you think it would be seen as Tomkins being an arrogant or having a laugh?
He kicked ball off centre spot apparently! Last week when you played Huddersfield, after a wire knock on Solomona went out of his way to pick the ball up and roll into off the pitch behind the advertising boards I didnt see an outcry at that.
He moans at refs apparently but yet on sat Westwood was called out and told to stop swearing at the ref! Sinfield abused a ref when Leeds were in France again its just brushed off!
Hes got an edge to him all great players do thats because they are winners! Like I said I know he does things that wind up and niggle but he isnt alone in SL difference is hes got the undoubted ability to win games on his own which not many players do!
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Seeing as you said both Tomkins wouldnt speak to anyone else in the squad.. and Ben Westwood was in the squad.. Well I guess you mentioned him.
Stop making lies up because you hate Sam because he tore you apart yesterday and appreciate what a cracking player he is.
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To be fair I think I mentioned Westqood on this thread. The reason I did it is because at the Whelanarena Westwood and Sam had a little bout of hand bags. Yet Westwood jumped to his defence after the Exiles game.
Just goes to show that players leave it in the pitch and show respect when due...... Such a shame some fans can't do the same.
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| Great player. Still a widge and can't stand him!
Like I said about Sean Long many moons ago, he's a complete an utter bell, but a complete and utter bell you'd love to have on your team.
Do me a favour though Sam, sod off to the NRL and take your Wire Langer top with you! Wigan lose their "special one" and he gains valuable experience against the best in the world which should benefit England RL!
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"Great player. Still a widge and can't stand him!
Like I said about Sean Long many moons ago, he's a complete an utter bell, but a complete and utter bell you'd love to have on your team.
Do me a favour though Sam, sod off to the NRL and take your Wire Langer top with you! Wigan lose their "special one" and he gains valuable experience against the best in the world which should benefit England RL!'"
No interest apparently and becuase hes not the best in the world there wont be! Plus he enjoys getting Booed in England to much!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"No interest apparently and becuase hes not the best in the world there wont be! Plus he enjoys getting Booed in England to much!'"
There will almost certainly be interest, my guess - The bunnies to make a bid in 2012.
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Haha. Im just trying to work out how Ron seems to know no one in NRL would take him and why he only chooses not to answer certain questions. Ive not said he was the best in the world but the fact that the Aussies saw him as our threat was a compliment to how they rate him and he is a massive talent!
Im not argueing hes perfect but trying to work out why hes singled out for stuff when there are plenty other players who do exectly the same but its accepted as ok!
He got stick off Warrington fans and laughed back. Plenty of players do the same. If Tomkins had done what Nat Wood did, when he ran down under the stand do you think it would be seen as Tomkins being an arrogant booty or having a laugh?
He kicked ball off centre spot apparently! Last week when you played Huddersfield, after a wire knock on Solomona went out of his way to pick the ball up and roll into off the pitch behind the advertising boards I didnt see an outcry at that.
He moans at refs apparently but yet on sat Westwood was called out and told to stop swearing at the ref! Sinfield abused a ref when Leeds were in France again its just brushed off!
Hes got an edge to him all great players do thats because they are winners! Like I said I know he does things that wind up and niggle but he isnt alone in SL difference is hes got the undoubted ability to win games on his own which not many players do!'"
Do you have a Hey Arnold type shrine in honour of Sam?
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| Quote ="Team Maverick"Why does it? It was his 1st taste of international rugby, and them 2 didnt have time of day for the 'squad' players'"
Are you talking about the squad in the build up to the England vs Exiles game?
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| I can only speak about my dealing with Sam Tomkins... I have an 8 yr old who adores Sam and wants her picture taken with him every time she sees him. He is always happy to do so has never been "Billy big bo...cks" and said no time etc. He will stand and sign autographs for anyone who asks. He often stands chatting to people after games also.I'm lucky enough to meet the Wigan players often as my hubby sponsors a player and I haven't met one who ignores the supporters or is rude to them.
Joel is also a credit to his parents and is just like Sam.
Over the years I've met players from most clubs and found most of them really great blokes who are happy to pose for located.
We are to quick to slate someone with talent in our sport. Let's support him when he plays for England no matter what team he plays for. I support any wire player when he is wearing an England shirt. I even like some when they play for wire. As I'm a RUGBY LEAGUE SUPPORTER
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| Quote ="Ron"Do you have a Hey Arnold type shrine in honour of Sam?'"
What I should do here is answer without ansering the question!!
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Are you talking about the squad in the build up to the England vs Exiles game?'" Yep
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| Names or you're making up lies???
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| Quote ="Team Maverick"Yep'"
That's interesting because you said...
Quote ="Team Maverick"Why does it? It was his 1st taste of international rugby, and them 2 didnt have time of day for the 'squad' players'"
now if I'm not mistaken every single player in the 22 man squad had already played international rugby. I think there was only one player who hadn't previously played for 'England' and that was Danny Brough (and he was forced to pull out).
Atkins, Bridge, Briscoe, Carvell, Crabtree, Cudjoe, Graham, Hall, JJB, Morley, Myler, O'Loughlin, Peacock, Robinson, Roby, Shenton, Sinfield, Westwood and Wilkin (plus Brough) have all played international rugby.
That would suggest you aren't telling the truth unless I've made a mistake and missed out someone obvious.
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| My only concern with Sam is that on the field he can get a little greedy. I think some of the posts about being him stuck up and arrogant are a little unfair. He does interact with other players on twitter and he is always willing to sign autographs and take pictures with fans. But sometimes i think during a game he does get a little too big for his boots and i wouldnt be surprised if someone does react to his behaviour imo.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"That's interesting because you said...
now if I'm not mistaken every single player in the 22 man squad had already played international rugby. I think there was only one player who hadn't previously played for 'England' and that was Danny Brough (and he was forced to pull out).
Atkins, Bridge, Briscoe, Carvell, Crabtree, Cudjoe, Graham, Hall, JJB, Morley, Myler, O'Loughlin, Peacock, Robinson, Roby, Shenton, Sinfield, Westwood and Wilkin (plus Brough) have all played international rugby.
That would suggest you aren't telling the truth unless I've made a mistake and missed out someone obvious.'"
The Knights/Elite meet up
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| Chris Riley, then?
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Chris Riley, then?'"
No.....
Does it matter who the player is?, my point was that he's up his own arris and people just can't accept that.
Granted he signs this signs that, chats to fans but at the player meet up he was a massive b@ll....
He's a cracking player and will be for years to come but he has to eradicate his cheating and childish antics out and basically grow up a bit.
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| Quote ="Team Maverick"No.....
Does it matter who the player is?, my point was that he's up his own arris and people just can't accept that.
Granted he signs this signs that, chats to fans but at the player meet up he was a massive b@ll....
He's a cracking player and will be for years to come but he has to eradicate his cheating and childish antics out and basically grow up a bit.'"
So they didn't even socialise with the other Wigan players in the squad? Even though the Wigan players in the Knights squad are some of their closest mates given that they've played and training together for years. And he was fine with the players in the full England squad as had been established. Sounds like the issue is with this unnamed player to me.
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| Iv known him on a personal level for years and hes never changed. Hes still one of the lads and has time for anyone and everyone. All this hes up his ar*e etc. Is rubbish.
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