Why are they surprised though. They have built him up on some pedestal like hes the new Alex Murphy or something when its plain to see, at least for me, he is nothing but a solid SL halfback and nor will he be anything else.

thats great to hear,... i always liked penny and want him to come back to warrington as a first teamer!!

I'd be mega surprised if I ever see Penny play for Warrington again.

Penny was chucked into the Wolves team as a kid and basically wasnt able to handle the rigors of SL. A short spell at Widnes did his game a world of good but (with the greatest respect) Widnes aint SL. Now he has a chance to gain regular experience against SL teams and is also maturing as a player. If the lad turns out to be good enough for Wolves then so be it.

Has out performed Eastmond all the way through the academy and in the last game also. Does that mean Eastmond is nothing more than solid?

I'd take Eastmond anyday.

Here we go again. Eastmond and Tomkins are the two most exciting half backs to come through the ranks in the past five years and stupid Wire fans are trying to do one of them down.

Who is trying to "do them down"? I stated that out of the two i would take Eastmond, sorry i was aware that this was a forum, where you can voice your opinions.

Don't know really ?

For England i'd have

Tomkins at 6
Myler at 7
Eastmond at 4

That's not because i think Eastmond is a lesser 6 or 7 than Tomkins & Myler but that he's more versatile.
If Penny played outside of Eastmond for England he'd see a lot more of the ball too.

"One of them". Read the thread rather than thinking I'm having a go at you.

Quotes like "one trick pony", "has one good game then six where he does nothing".

Forum, voicing opinions. Yes, people will disagree. Don't throw your dummy out if they do.

IMO - Tomkins is more than a solid SL player as said above, Tomkins is very creative and can win games single handed, also he has a very good kicking game.

However i think Eastmond has a better kicking game than Tomkins. Eastmond is versatile, creative, skillfull, he's an "all rounder" if you like not to menshion Kyle's superb goal kicking. Because of his goal kicking, versatility and slight more creativeness he edges it.

Two great starts of the future though and this is only good for the game, I'd maybe put Eastmond at FB. He's been playing very well there in the games he's had to fill the void there this season and with the only likely other contender being Briscoe i'd play him there.

Well you did say Wire fans. I think you will find you were the one spitting your dummy out.

im entitled to an opinion just like you..my opinion of tomkins may differ to yours(big deal)..in fact i`d take eastmond any day..now is that ok for you or are we to have another slanging match...

Thankyou. Just an idiot always trying to pick an arguement, that one.

Jeez. My opinion is that a good number of posters on here have knees that jerk at the slightest thing, i.e. Tomkins having a poor game or Quins beating Wigan. Having an opinion means you might expect people to disagree rather than blubbing about it when someone criticises it. No need for a slanging match, just stop coming on and saying "I'm entitled to an opinion". I know you bloody well are, that's what the whole forum's about.

At least I can spell it.

consider yourself shocked then....

Ask any Wire fan if they'd have Tomkins playing or Wire, if any of them say NO then they know nothing about rugby.

No

Stop derailing the thread.

you know them 3 warnings you got on the other user name? and you know how you said you were going to keep your head down josh?


Pack in with the bickering and the bloody paranoia and over reaction.



Remember, opinions are like s, everyone has one, but some stink more than others.

Fascinating result- second time this season Wigan have capitulated in the second half. Injuries are a factor but at half time I was thinking 'Jesus, 24-6 up with that many players out? They are the real deal'. Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Big test for Wigan coming up now, cannot wait for next weekend's fun.

Big test indeed. We bounced back last time this happened so hopefully we can do the same again.

I still think we're punching above our weight this season, so maybe its just a case of the players thinking they are better than they are and not needing to work as hard to win games. The bradford game brought us back down to earth so hopefully this can do the same.

and great big no from me aswell..dont like spoilt brats