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| Come on Hullers, off back to your own boards and take your pettty squabbles with you.
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| not sqawbling mate just leting u know were the deal is thats all keep your hair on daft lad
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| Quote ="gooses 69"i urge mods to look at all your posts you should have a lifetime ban from all forums for all your posts which are against the AUP phil webbo'"
Would that be like the bans you keep getting
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| Quote ="hfcandy82"he hasnt signed for any one he has failed a medical at the wire fact on health grounds'"
How would you know.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"4 year contract (if true) is a big risk by your club, don't you have enough injured people as it is? i would be surprised if carvs averages 15 games a season for the rest of his career.'"
We took a chance on Fozzard and Hilton (2nd stint) and both missed only a handful of games so our medical staff are good judges where that's concerned.
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| Are we going for some sort of record or something?
Trying to the get the majority of our salary money off the field rather than on it.
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| from todays league - weekly
Quote Carvell ‘Signs Wolves Deal
Carvell Is reported to be on his way to warrington wolves for the next season.
The Hull FC and g.b player prop is said to agreed a 4 year deal with the wolves who will pay hull £50.000 transfer fee
Carvell pledged his future to hull less the 3 months ago, lnking a lucrative new 3 year deal only to make a stunning u-turn the next day and tell the club he wants out.
He had seemed destined for st Helens until he signed the new deal and attracted the attention of both wigan and south Sydney rabbitohs too.
But it appears wolves have been the keenest to stump up the cash for the 28 year old, wloves are likely to have to release some players to fit carvell’s earning’s under the salary cap, which opens up the possibility of players going the other way down the M62 as part of the deal'"
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Dave ‘NOSEY’ Parker
While there was plenty of red hot speculation along the M62 on Friday and Saturday that Hull’s prop carvell had definitely signed for the wolves, I still told by an excellent source close to knowsley rd that he will ending up at st helenes'"
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| Carvell is one of the best go forward props around in SL and when fit will do a superb job for you. His problem is he is a big bloke and does pick up a lot of injuries and is not a quick healer. £50k is good business but a 4 year deal seems a bit much tbh. His offer at Hull was estimated to be around the £105k a year mark.
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| Quote ="lummy"You've got a top deal if true. 50k to your lot is nothing whereas we cant do much with it. Without doubt, in the top 3 props in SL and at 28, my opinion is he's just hitting his peak. I'm gutted as a Hull fan, would have loved Briers to come the other way.'"
Me too.
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| Quote ="CockneyWire"Thanks for that, while you're here, could you send me a copy of our wage bill details please.
Many thanks in advance'"
Legder in the Yorkshire Post refers to him being on £135K. That is very close to the mark. Which, as I said, will mean a few players having to leave.
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| Quote ="Jammerman"Legder in the Yorkshire Post refers to him being on £135K. That is very close to the mark. Which, as I said, will mean a few players having to leave.'"
no wonder you lot have to encourage your youngsters, 135k on a prop who isn't even an international regular.
good grief.
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| Quote ="Lefty"How would you know.'"
He says 'fact' why would you question it?
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| Quote ="Bloody Stupid Cat"no wonder you lot have to encourage your youngsters, 135k on a prop who isn't even an international regular.
good grief.'"
Are you not worried about paying this much for a player who played 9 Sl games this season?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Are you not worried about paying this much for a player who played 9 Sl games this season?'"
Terribly worried. But you know, we're the wire and we don't care. That'll be 50% of our salary cap going to 2 players. how do we do it. All facts.
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| A lot of our fans complain about injuries so if we do sign Gareth Carvell then the following players in our squad would all have poor injury records over the years, that would be almost a 3rd of the squad which is frightening really when your trying to keep a healthy squad in tact.
1. Stuart Reardon
2. Paul Johnson
3. Chris Bridge
4. Vinnie Anderson
5. Paul Wood
6. Lee Briers
7. Simon Grix
8. Paul Rauhihi
9. Gareth Carvell ?
If your signing players with a track record of injuries then its no suprise is it that we have quite a few injuries each season.
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| Quote Warrington have already taken steps to strengthen for next season and yesterday completed the signing of Great Britain prop Garreth Carvell from Hull.
The Wolves paid a £50,000 transfer fee for Carvell after beating off stiff competition from St Helens and Bradford to secure his services for the next four years.
Also Lee Briers and Martin Gleeson have gone the other way.
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From the Times.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"A lot of our fans complain about injuries so if we do sign Gareth Carvell then the following players in our squad would all have poor injury records over the years, that would be almost a 3rd of the squad which is frightening really when your trying to keep a healthy squad in tact.
1. Stuart Reardon
2. Paul Johnson
3. Chris Bridge
4. Vinnie Anderson
5. Paul Wood
6. Lee Briers
7. Simon Grix
8. Gareth Carvell ?
If your signing players with a track record of injuries then its no suprise is it that we have quite a few injuries each season.'"
Well, you wouldn't sign anyone at all then would you.
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| Quote ="Bloody Stupid Cat"Well, you wouldn't sign anyone at all then would you.'"
Common sense tells you that if your a club thats been suffering from injuries for the last few seasons then you don`t bring in a player that has only played 6 games in the previous season where most of his season was missed through injury, your asking for trouble.
Players have minor knocks at most clubs and miss the odd game in a season as thats the nature of the game, its these players with long spells out through injury we should be avoiding, maybe thats just to much common sense for this board and i appologise for that.
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| Quote ="major black"Knees, Shoulder. Did his knee ligaments against wolves first game.iir.'"
Has also had a hip injury and the latest was a groin problem.
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| Quote ="Jaybrown832"From the Times.'"
Deal.
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| Carvells stats:
2003 - 21 appearances, 199 tackles, 1578 metres
2004 - 13 appearances, 145 tackles, 1335 metres
2005 - 19 appearances, 243 tackles, 1824 metres
2006 - 25 appearances, 482 tackles, 2289 metres
2007 - 17 appearances, 299 tackles, 1677 metres
2008 - 9 appearances, 155 tackels, 957 metres
So 23 appearances on average, 254 tackels, 1610 metres.
At £135k a year that's £5.8K a game, £530 a tackle 0r £83 a metre.
If you think he is worth that, for another 4 seasons, then good luck to you.
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| Hull supporters saying he is rubbish now he has left the club. Zut alors!
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| Quote ="Standee"Carvells stats:
2003 - 21 appearances, 199 tackles, 1578 metres
2004 - 13 appearances, 145 tackles, 1335 metres
2005 - 19 appearances, 243 tackles, 1824 metres
2006 - 25 appearances, 482 tackles, 2289 metres
2007 - 17 appearances, 299 tackles, 1677 metres
2008 - 9 appearances, 155 tackels, 957 metres
So 23 appearances on average, 254 tackels, 1610 metres.
At £135k a year that's £5.8K a game, £530 a tackle 0r £83 a metre.
If you think he is worth that, for another 4 seasons, then good luck to you.'"
His average appearances are wrong there, more like 17.5 games.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Hull supporters saying he is rubbish now he has left the club. Zut alors!'"
Nobody is saying he is rubbish. We are suggesting that a player who has averaged just 17 games per season over the last 6 years might fairly be considered to be injury prone and a somewhat high risk for a long-term big-money contract.
And yes, we were having the same discussion on our board before we knew he was leaving.
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| Nick Fozzard joined Warrington with a terrible injury record. He then hardly missed a game in four years for Warrington and St Helens (until this season).
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