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| Quote ="runningman29"Talking about bile,that's what i'm reading now.Did i say teachers were to blame for the closures?You'll see if your little brain can scroll to my previous posts that nowhere have i said they are to blame although you won't see many of them complaining.Secondly do you know how many people are on minimum wage working just as hard as your teacher wife?Lastly £32k IS the average wage of a classroom teacher + if you say it's not then the BBC website which is probably the worlds most respected news organisation is giving out false information so when your head has come out of your bottom you might realise that for a nice salary + the benefits that the job comes with,life as a teacher compared with alot of people isn't so bad afterall.'"
I am familiar with the BBC, I have to be when they pay me my salary every month but thank you for the concern
I refer to your second and third post, granted you don't directly accuse teachers for the closure but you do start slating them with comments that are inaccurate and unfair.
You're probably right about 32k being the average salary although it does take several years from qualifying as a teacher to get to that level of salaray (they start on about 20k outside of London) and there's a lot more pressure on new teachers to perform.
Anywho, back to the snow.....
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| Quote ="Kol Witless"Wirefan,
The fact that my posts annoy you won't cause me to loose any sleep. It would, after all, be a strange and dull World if we all shared the same opinions.
I do however take exception at you referring to me as "stupid" for making a journey to Preston. Today millions of people up and down the country will have made a motorway journey similar to mine for all sorts of reasons. By your definition all of these millions of people are "stupid". Think hard, is this genuinely what you believe? Because if it is, those millions that you have labelled as stupid, and which undoubtedly will include some of your friends and family, probably won't appreciate your opinion of them either.
Given your protestations and taking into account that you don't want to be "stupid" like the rest of us, it is fair to assume that you cannot have been anywhere near a motorway, let alone Preston, in the last few days (if you have you are a hypocrite sir). How therefore can you possibly be qualified to tell me that the motorways are not pleasant to drive on? If you have not driven on them you simply have no evidence to the contrary and it is impossible for you to make this judgement - so I suggest that you keep this comment and that regarding my driving ability (30 years without a single conviction or accident) to yourself.
I am neither a fan of motor cars or motoring programmes, and if you are under the illusion that my that my opinions are in some way shaped by self important television presenters then you are sadly mistaken. My reference to "BMW driving idiots" was an intended rhetorical criticism of a lot of high powered vehicle drivers who have little consideration for other road users, which because you took it literally seems to have gone over your head.
Why you should be so interested in what car I drive? God alone knows. As I alluded to above I have little or no interest in what car I drive providing that I arrive at my destination safetly and in relative comfort.
Since you ask the question, nobody did ask, so it was perhaps wrong of me to inform other readers that I always (irrespective of the weather) arrive at work at around 7-7.30am. The point that I was making, which you might have missed again, was that there are alternative ways of getting to work on time even in the most inclement of conditions - one of them being leaving home at the crack of dawn if necessary.
As for me being "a cut above the rest", I'm not sure how or why you have drawn this conclusion. I am a regular, hard working family man from a poor working class background who just happens to have strong opinions and ethics. I make no apologies for these, I am only sorry that you have misinterpreted them to make me seem something that I am not.'"
I'm glad you didn't get stuck in the snow because I'd pity the others who got stranded with you and had to listen to you drone on and on and on and on and on.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"I'm glad you didn't get stuck in the snow because I'd pity the others who got stranded with you and had to listen to you drone on and on and on and on and on.'"
I'd rather be stuck with him than listen to some of the guff you come out with Paul.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'd rather be stuck with him than listen to some of the guff you come out with Paul.'"
Isn't that mouthwash?
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'd rather be stuck with him than listern to some of the guff you come out with Paul.'"
Kevin Sinfield - care to let us in on where you got fed all the crap from?
Or is he still signing "Mr Inside Knowledge" my arris
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| Quote ="JWP"Isn't that mouthwash?'"
No but this is what your looking for......
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| Apologies for maintaining this off thread orientation. But I feel compelled to comment on the amount of people who defend partners/ spouses/relatives who teach.
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| Do you think they are defending them, or just commenting from a knowledgeable perspective?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Apologies for maintaining this off thread orientation. But I feel compelled to comment on the amount of people who defend partners/ spouses/relatives who teach.
Rather confusing.'"
I'd defend you monkeyman, to the hilt. I won't have a bad word said about my getdownmonkeyman.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Do you think they are defending them, or just commenting from a knowledgeable perspective?'"
In the manner it has been delivered, I would say defending.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"In the manner it has been delivered, I would say defending.'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Apologies for maintaining this off thread orientation. But I feel compelled to comment on the amount of people who defend partners/ spouses/relatives who teach.
Rather confusing.'"
Not defending simply educating. No pun intended.
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| i feel compelled to defend teachers simply because they do a very difficult job very well.the people on here having a pop at them do so without any knowledge whatsoever of how hard they work and how many hours they put in.
there are plenty of perks to a teachers job but these are far outweighed by how demanding a career it is.
i went in to my wifes school last year and did a talk to a group of 5th years regarding some coursework,i know that i couldn't get up there and do this "easy" job day in day out.
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| I wouldn't even entertain teaching. Horrendously frustrating, with very little sense of reward I would imagine in today's education system.
However, I will temper that by stating that the job is not without it perks. Working outside contracted hours should not be cited as going beyond the call of duty, it happens every day in myriad of vocations.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman" Working outside contracted hours should not be cited as going beyond the call of duty, it happens every day in myriad of vocations.'"
Quite, but for some reason, some of the posters on this thread seem to think teachers work from 9 till 3 for about 9 months of the year. That constant running down of such a valuable profession is what annoys me.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I wouldn't even entertain teaching. Horrendously frustrating, with very little sense of reward I would imagine in today's education system.
However, I will temper that by stating that the job is not without it perks. Working outside contracted hours should not be cited as going beyond the call of duty, it happens every day in myriad of vocations.'"
I think gaining a sense of reward is down to individual perspective. My wife had an affluent upbringing but much prefers working in schools that are in deprived areas, a school in Wythenshawe of all placed had been her most rewarding role to date. I do agree about the current system though, it's highly unbalanced.
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| On another, completely separate topic, I wouldn't be surprised to see a return to the grammar school system. Or something very similar.
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| think they should spend a little more time on driving in snow during their training though.
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| Its the teachers partners etc that are on here arguing the case.
Perhaps there busy working? Hmmm
Feeling the love in this thread.
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Its the teachers partners etc that are on here arguing the case.
Perhaps there busy working? Hmmm
Feeling the love in this thread.'"
Or perhaps there aren't any teachers that use this particular forum on a regular basis or at all.
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| Or maybe they don't want become embroiled in an argument over something that is out of their control? It isn't the teachers that closed the schools so why come on here to take the flak off people who have no respect for the profession?
When parents keep the children off school for holidays, shopping trips etc it is their right and will do no harm, but when the school closes for the safety of the children it's the teachers' fault and the children's education suffers!
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| I'm sure many of the teachers are aching to get back to work/in the classroom, it is a labour of love after all they say.
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| It's not just the teachers. I know someone who works in the offices at the Collegiate who is off and dying to go back because they have nothing to do. They cant work from home because they work in HR and deal with the staff!
Luckily the Collegiate have got JCBs in to clear the paths and car parks so they should be in for Monday.
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| boteler school opens monday..thank god...weather and driving conditions must be a lot better come monday....
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| lymm high is closed on monday but yr11's and sixth formers with exams have to go in
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