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| As much as i don't like Warrington (in a rivalry and banter way of course) i will be sat there very much with a 'primrose and blue all the way' on Saturday. St Helens' fans attitude of already having it won would give them a right old kick on the spuds and then it's all systems Grand Final (which they have already won too)
Come on Warrington
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Forget current form, it’s a 50/50 game if Wire play there best game of the season and Saints have an off day......you win.'"
This topic is for irrational hope only, so please depart from whence you came.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Forget current form, it’s a 50/50 game if Wire play there best game of the season and Saints have an off day......you win.'"
JM, that just doesn't make any sense. Its 70/30 in Saints favour.
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| I'd say based on the quality of the two sides Saints should win. The league table isn't lying. But it wasn't last season and the best side often doesn't win the trophies due to only needing to lose a solitary game to mess up 9 months of superiority.
The only thing that is certain is that the duck will claim to be a genius. He'll either say I told you so, told you we'd win. Or he'll say that you'll batter us when they're all fit and proclaim he's had a vision of a Grand Final win.
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| Saddened you disappoint me.
Usually you have some gravity of sense...
Let me ground you some....and all the the tyre kickers of my own team.
Turn the clock back to the point everyone was in unity about a 2 horse race and nothing but a fag paper between Saints and Wire...and the point ahead of the one game everyone wanted to see.
THAT is at least where a true Wire ability lies...not a 'form line' where parameters change with injury and suspension over 3 months.
70/30, carnage, walkover, 30 on them, thrash them...
Some of the stuff I've read. Utter bollox. These 2 teams will be switched on at their premium best...and the nearest to formline we had at that point was what I wrote in paragraph 2.
Anyone who thinks Saints only have to turn up...will find themselves falling a very high drop.
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| If we win, it will all be set up for cliched post-match interviews on the pitch:
Random Warrington player: "Nobody's give us a pruur, aport from those lads in that dressing room, it just shors the character an spirit what's in this side, and hopefully our season can kick off from here now and mek that Grand Final"
Holbrook: "No I wouldn't say we underestimated them, Warrington are a top class side, they've shown that over the last couple of years, very good on the big occasion. I think they just played better on the day, handled the collisions better, came at us with more intensity. I can't really fault the effort of our boys but Warrington's execution was just better".
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd say based on the quality of the two sides Saints should win. The league table isn't lying. But it wasn't last season and the best side often doesn't win the trophies due to only needing to lose a solitary game to mess up 9 months of superiority.
The only thing that is certain is that the duck will claim to be a genius. He'll either say I told you so, told you we'd win. Or he'll say that you'll batter us when they're all fit and proclaim he's had a vision of a Grand Final win.'"
I agree, Warrington are in terrible form but if we win it won't be an upset on the scale of Sheffield Eagles 1998. More on the scale of Hull 2005 or Catalans 2018.
I think if you played this game 10 times in parallel universes Warrington would win 2, possibly 3.
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| Agree with that SC
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Saddened you disappoint me.
Usually you have some gravity of sense...
Let me ground you some....and all the the tyre kickers of my own team.
=#FF0040Turn the clock back to the point everyone was in unity about a 2 horse race and nothing but a fag paper between Saints and Wire...and the point ahead of the one game everyone wanted to see.
THAT is at least where a true Wire ability lies...not a 'form line' where parameters change with injury and suspension over 3 months.
70/30, carnage, walkover, 30 on them, thrash them...
Some of the stuff I've read. Utter bollox. These 2 teams will be switched on at their premium best...and the nearest to formline we had at that point was what I wrote in paragraph 2.
Anyone who thinks Saints only have to turn up...will find themselves falling a very high drop.'"
You mean you and Saints fans, most on here dismissed such nailed on two horse twaddle, as we never have looked the real deal even when we several points clear of third.
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| I am massively pessimistic about this weekend,
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I do want to wish all 17 who pull on a Wire shirt on Saturday all the very best - give it your best shot and win lose or draw I will be proud to be a Wire fan (but if you drift around and play like you've never been introduced to each other then I will be venting my spleen on here!)
Come on you Wire, believe it or not we're all firmly behind you!!
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"I am massively pessimistic about this weekend,
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I do want to wish all 17 who pull on a Wire shirt on Saturday all the very best - give it your best shot and win lose or draw I will be proud to be a Wire fan (but if you drift around and play like you've never been introduced to each other then I will be venting my spleen on here!)
Come on you Wire, believe it or not we're all firmly behind you!!'"
Same, I'm going down and I'm going to enjoy it regardless. I don't think we stand a chance of winning but stranger things have happened. I think beating saints in a final would heal the wounds of the hoodoo, however I feel sick to the stomach about the prospect of losing to them adding to it!
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| You don’t know how lucky you are! Is it 6 Wembley appearances in 10 years? Most clubs fans would give their all for that! The best day out in the rugby calendar and you’re starring in it again!! Wow. Enjoy the day! Cry when they play abide with me have a few drinks sing your hearts out for your boys!! Wear that primrose and blue with massive pride! I’ll be doing just that in my black and white in the Mickey Mouse thing we’re involved with! Whatever the outcome good or bad be proud of your town and your club. You’ll be surprised how quickly things can go downhill! Good luck!!
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| Quote ="Widnes Al"You don’t know how lucky you are! Is it 6 Wembley appearances in 10 years? Most clubs fans would give their all for that! The best day out in the rugby calendar and you’re starring in it again!! Wow. Enjoy the day! Cry when they play abide with me have a few drinks sing your hearts out for your boys!! Wear that primrose and blue with massive pride! I’ll be doing just that in my black and white in the Mickey Mouse thing we’re involved with! Whatever the outcome good or bad be proud of your town and your club. You’ll be surprised how quickly things can go downhill! Good luck!!'"
Great point (11 years BTW). I'm a 'winning is all that matters' kind of guy but I do get an enormous sense of pride when my team's colours and badge are adorning Wembley.
I'm driving down and up, which I've never done before as I like enjoying the day with some bevvies. But if we win I'll be enjoying a night out in Warrington.
I expect us to lose but I expected us to win last year, and in 2016. You never know.
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| Enjoy your day JN. Whatever happens you’ll remember it for the rest of your life! Not every day you can say that about! Hope you’re celebrating in Warrington Saturday night. I must admit is was in the Catalan corner last year but this year I’m firmly in the Wire fold!!
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Forget current form, it’s a 50/50 game if Wire play there best game of the season and Saints have an off day......you win.'"
It's fun seeing the Saints fans who have bigged their team up as invincible all year hitting the brakes hard ahead of this one.
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| Quote ="just_browny"It's fun seeing the Saints fans who have bigged their team up as invincible all year hitting the brakes hard ahead of this one.'"
It would be their worst nightmare, massive favourites and losing to the “Wolfs”, if only.
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| Quote ="Widnes Al"Enjoy your day JN. Whatever happens you’ll remember it for the rest of your life! Not every day you can say that about! Hope you’re celebrating in Warrington Saturday night. I must admit is was in the Catalan corner last year but this year I’m firmly in the Wire fold!!'"
Come out as a wire fan already. No true Widnes fan wants Wire to win.
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| Quote ="Targaryen_3"Come out as a wire fan already. No true Widnes fan wants Wire to win.'"
I couldn't give a flying fat one whether you think I'm a true Widnes fan or not! 5 of us going, 3 in the Saints camp 2 in the Wire. Not all fans are bitter and twisted! I won't lose any sleep if Wire lose and I wouldn't be seen dead in primrose and blue but on this occasion I hope Warrington win. I'll then settle down to watch Widnes which I've done regularly for the last 49 years!
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| I know quite a few Widnes fans who are supporting Wire. I'd certainly be supporting Widnes were they playing Saints.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"I know quite a few Widnes fans who are supporting Wire. I'd certainly be supporting Widnes were they playing Saints.'"
Here here me too
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That’s tough for Matty, but how it goes.
Could give us an edge in the forwards
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That’s tough for Matty, but how it goes.
Could give us an edge in the forwards
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"Great point (11 years BTW). I'm a 'winning is all that matters' kind of guy but I do get an enormous sense of pride when my team's colours and badge are adorning Wembley.
I'm driving down and up, which I've never done before as I like enjoying the day with some bevvies. But if we win I'll be enjoying a night out in Warrington.
I expect us to lose but I expected us to win last year, and in 2016. You never know.'"
Are you counting fence panels or fence posts there
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| Quote ="Superblue"Are you counting fence panels or fence posts there
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Ha! Well including 2009 and 2019, there have been 11 finals. That's the way I count it!
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| Quote ="Targaryen_3"Come out as a wire fan already. No true Widnes fan wants Wire to win.'"
Some Widnes fans memory aren't so short as yours. They still remember when Widnes V neared the eleventh hour...it was the Good Doc and Simon Moran and the Warrington club...and most importantly the Widnes fans, that stepped in to help.
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