I was in Greece so exempt!

Holidays, work, family commitments, lack of money are all valid reasons that can't be disputed.

Me too. Skiathos.

I'll be there on Friday and the U19's final at your place on Saturday.

Rhodes...thanks vw

do you remember when you played saints, your biggest rivals, at the HJ and couldn't get anywhere near filling it?

I do.

I went to the Widnes game, couldn't make the Cas game, can't make this one and will have to rip up trees to try and make the final if we get there, so if after Friday night we have won, i have to try and call in big favours on two fronts.

It's very difficult and expensive being a Wire fan from long distance. I know that Yed comes to every game he can and I try to do the same. I'm sick not to be able to go on Friday.

Yeah, and my car is STILL out of commision too, so Euston to Piccadilly.
I have plans down the line to move to the Peak District, 8 years on the mortgage and i'm out of here, then it's season ticket time

Play off crowds are a shambles across the board as proven by Wigan and Huddersfield being the best attended game to date at just over 8,000.

Points scoring between both sets of fans is pointless as neither club nor any other in superleague have a leg to stand on. The place should be full to capacity on Friday but I'd guess it will be around half full come kick off made up of about 8k of us and 4k of you.

Not good enough sadly but still nearly 4,000 higher then the next highest play off crowd which is frankly laughable and highlights the issues the sport faces.

Only the die hards will turn out for the biggest games of the year.....weird!

I really do think the major problems with the play-off have been magnified by extending them to a 6 then 8 team play-off. Giving 4 sides a second chance is ridiculous. All it means is that when a side goes 12 points down they simply play a damage limitation exercise and wait until the next week, when their reward for a good hiding is a home game. It just encourages mediocrity.
At least next year games will mean something there will be an incentive to both get in the top 8 and get as high up it as possble. Also the play-offs will be limited to 4 sides with no second chance. Real knock-out football.

lets be honest, there is no such thing as 'die hard fans' anymore.... alot of people that buy season tickets get to the end of the domestic season and think 'ah well i can watch every game on TV now'

thats the reason the playoffs are so poor attendance wise.

* actually there are die hard fans... just not as many as we think

As of close of play on Tuesday we had sold over 3,300 and we're expecting more to be delivered to the shop for the West stand.

Pretty sure we're not going to sell out of our North Stand allocation, I got 2 from the club shop at about 18:30 last night no problem?

So was it our last 6 league games on sky plus a CC semi on BBC which is hardly an incentive for fans who have already got sky sports to get off their bootys & go along in the flesh to watch the boys. Unfortunately,like so many other sports in this country, RL has sold its soul to sky & become nothing more than a slot in sky's tv schedules. Once fans are sat at home watching from armchairs it is difficult to get them back on the terraces.

I think I would probably agree with most of that Nine, except for the Faust bit about selling our soul to the devil. Unfortunately if we didn't have the Sky money I think we would be an amateur game with a much reduced number of clubs.

Undoubtedly there wouldn't be so much money in the game if not for Sky but can you honestly say the game has gained entertainment value ? Sure the players are bigger and fitter but are they any more skilful ? It seems to me the game is more about biff bash and brute force rather than the traditional skills which attracted most of us to the game in the first place...The wrestling tactics are strangling the game as a spectacle and is rapidly becoming more boring by the week. I'm taking a sabbatical, not having been to a single live game all season. I wasn't prepared so sit in the North Stand any longer being bored out of my mind...I'll see you again when the powers that be get a grip of Wrestlemania.

Spot on, and to think Rogues wants to bring back contested scrums

In my opinion the game would be far better without Sky Sports, as would most others.

Yes, the players would be getting paid less and most would be semi-pro, but why would that be a problem for the paying supporter? It was the case for a century of the sport pre-Super League, and it managed to exist then and would continue to do so.

The first thing pro-Sky campaigners will say is that all the players will go to Australia or rugby union, but we seem to lose the absolute elite players to them now anyway, and ultimately there are only so many NRL and RFU contracts to go round. The NRL won't suddenly sign up half of SL, and not all league players are suited to union or would command contracts ahead of the lads who have played that game their whole lives. Plenty would still want to play in Super League and if we were watching them at a lower cost than we currently pay to get in with 90% of games kicking off at 3pm on a Sunday then I would personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too.

TBH i was thinking about bringing back contested scrums ,allowing the marker to strike at the play the ball & doing away with the six tackle rule which should reduce the number of handling errors & kicks out of hand that we have today. The kick down field that invariably goes dead is turning us into a less affluent version of Union. We need to get back to the slick passing the game was renowned for .

I was too generous. They were being offered out this morning.



"She said its not a problem for tomorrow night, sounds like there's loads of tickets left"

2 refs will sort out a lot of problems


Just need to find some decent ones now.

"as would most others" or "personally be a lot happier and I suspect some others would be too"....Make your mind up.

I don't have Sky Sports, but, thank goodness it's available IMO as I attend most games but can't on Friday but will find it on somewhere in a pub or would you expect me and other displaced species to be happy listening on a wireless somewhere?

Depending upon your average ticket price to maintain the same income clubs would have to generate quite a few thousand fans every week and as you alluded to earlier there isn't a massive total walk up to the HJ even though we have been playing great RL, or do you seriously think that fans would be encouraged to flock every other week by a standard KO time and a semi pro game?

Sky Sports is not the root of all evil, you're a football fan do you want to see a return to the days of Gerald Sinstatd and Brian Moore with coverage limited to a highlights programme and the odd live game?

Gerald Sinstadt, there's a blast from the past

:1tx06puw

The first part referred to most other sports, not most other rugby league fans.



No, I want it to cost less than £45 to get into a match. It's funny how in both football and rugby league, admission prices are considerably higher now than they were before clubs main source of revenue was TV money. Really you'd think that wouldn't be the case, but it definitely is.

As for watching matches in pubs, unless you live in an RL town then good luck finding one that will show our games because in my experience it isn't easy.

No, I want it to cost less than £45 to get into a match. It's funny how in both football and rugby league, admission prices are considerably higher now than they were before clubs main source of revenue was TV money. Really you'd think that wouldn't be the case, but it definitely is.

As for watching matches in pubs, unless you live in an RL town then good luck finding one that will show our games because in my experience it isn't easy.'"