Quit moaning. The venue is unfair on the Yorkshire side, not the Wire fans.

Why should such a huge game be played at the home of one of Warrington's local rivals? It gives Dire an advantage straight away.

St Helens is just 10 miles from Warrington and you are whinging about it being a 'pain in the backside' to get to a neighbouring town.

No fully grown adult should be wearing a replica shirt, i am sure dropkick murphy(legend!)will appear on this forum before saturday to advise us what gear will be acceptable for a semi final.

Good job I'm 18 then isn't it?

Team to line up as follows:

Russell
Ormsby
J Monaghan
Atkins
Evans
Bridge
Ratchford
Hill
Higham
England
Waterhouse
Westwood
Grix

M Monaghan
Wood
Harrison
Currie (Myler if Currie not fit)

Anybody heard any news on ticket sales is it going to be the usual half full stadium ?

youve taken it the wrong way..for a ground close to us it is a pain to get to no decent train service.a bus service that leaves alot to be desired...you go to a neighbouring town or city that doesnt have a nearby train station and you will understand what hes on about..no way was it a moan about having a dis-advantage

Calm down dear, it is just a figure of speech. I spent three years travelling to every game, home and away from Hull without a car. Now that's a pain in the backside!

None of us are moaning about it only being 10 miles away Pal, its that the Public transport links from Gods Town to St Helens are not good at all. No direct train link and the Buses are not much better. Its easier to get to Huddersfield from Gods Town on the train than it is Saints.

Ignore Bruce!

His levels of bellendary know no bounds!

He just seems to jump from forum to forum trolling!

Only 200 left in our standing end, s'all I know

Anybody planning to use the train to St Helens Junction ,whether from Warrington or Leeds ,needs to check the trains are actually running. The line is being upgraded with some weekend closures.

"The clash with Warrington Wolves at St Helens on Saturday will be Leeds’ first semi-final outside Yorkshire since 2002 when they were crushed 42-16 by St Helens at Wigan."

If I was TS I'd have the wingers and centres practicing taking attacking kicks in the corner. Joel has always beaten Hall and Briscoe is an error-machine.

Bentham has our game

So we have Bentham and Cas v Widnes has Silverwood, I'd say we got the better out of the two.

He does go to the screen quite a lot though and apparently can't judge 10m properly..

Meanwhile, Leeds are still waiting to play their first Grand Final in Yorkshire having played the last 7 in Lancashire.

Name a suitable venue in Yorkshire that isn't the home of an RL club? Would you prefer to go to Wembley for that as well? (I wouldn't mind it tbh)

This isn't about Finals anyway, or even the Super League, its about the semifinal of the cup.

And as of 1974 Old Trafford is in Greater Manchester, not Lancashire.

Strange that, was sure I saw Lancashire playing cricket at Old Trafford a couple of weeks back. It's no longer an administrative county but believe me it still exists.

Regardless, we're in Cheshire. I'm sure you can suffer through having to travel over here for a semi for the first time in 12 years. We've had to travel a fair bit in recent years as have over teams drawn against you.

We don't moan, never have done. The facts are we have played more games against you lot over the hill outside of Yorkshire than in Yorkshire at neutral venues since 2002. We just get on with it.

Well if your not a moaner why are you on here??

"We don't moan" - Ha! Couldn't make it up!

"We just get on with it" - evidently not. I've seen several of your fans moan about having to travel.

Have you heck played more games over here since 2002, you haven't left Yorkshire for a semi since 2002 and if you played us over here in the playoffs, it's cos you finished lower than us in the league.

P.S. Saw your post on your forum, sounds like hardly any of you can be d coming.

For Widnes / Cas I fancy Cas because they are playing so well and are so full of confidence.
(We would struggle against both of them because Widnes are our bogey side and are always 'up' when they play us, and Cas have shown what they can do - the only thing they lack is 'big game' experience. If we don't get to the final I want to a Cas win.

Wire /Leeds - anybodies guess.
If we can beat them up front (which we can) then they'll struggle but if they get any decent ball then we could be in trouble. Their back line is very very good.
Leeds fans are really unhappy with the strength in depth of their forwards, and I can understand that. The only question mark is whether As-it-easy is on the bench or Laithwaite (Ben Evans isn't match fit yet I think).

My team would be
Russell
Joel
Grix
Atkins
Evans
Bridge
Ratchford
Hill
Monas
England
Waterhouse
Westwood
Harrison

Woody on the bench plus Higham, Myler + As-it or Laithwaite (with Laithwaite it means we only have 1 prop on the bench, and even though Harrison could move to prop he can't do 80mins between prop and loose forward - not the way TS plays loose as a prop)

Ormsby misses out for me in order to shore up the defence on that side
Until last week I'd have said Higham to start but Monas was simply awesome last week so I'm in a quandry.
If TS decides to play Ormsby then I'd look at Grix as bench or possibly loose forward bringing Ben H on as prop and more fire power after 20 mins.

For me Ablett is a key player. I know lots of people really don't like him (and many don't rate him) but he's playing really well, scores tries and if we snuff him and Sinfield out then we have a good chance.

I agree that Monas was on fire last week but I'd still start with Higham. Let Higham do the first 20 and then bring on a fresh, experienced Monas and let him work his magic against a tiring defence.

Also TS isn't afraid to have both on at the same time so I wouldn't be surprised if they're both on the field in the second half.

a leeds fan moaning about the grand final being this side of the peninnes..unbelievable