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| Basically, any opposing coach can watch any video of our team for the last few years & see exactly how our main playmakers perform week in week out. Tonight Saints came to us, got in our faces & blew us off the field for 20 minutes ,when the Wire realised what had hit them , there was too much of a hill to climb . What i can't understand is how the Saints team of basically the same players have been unable to get results for their adoring fans & Royce Simmons.
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| Quote ="wardleyred"funny that as the author of this post happened to mention it!'" Just the Author out of a seven page thread*!!If Anything his defence has improved ten fold !!!!!!!!
I presume you know what that means??
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| Myler was extremely poor for you lot last night, didnt seem to get involved in attack and got targeted time and time again from Saints in defence, worst game iv seen him play for you. Saying that, there's no shame in an 18 point defeat last night, Saints were brilliant in all aspects of the game, brutal defence and fantastic free flowing attacking rugby, I fear the worst for us good friday.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Agreed we will start to perform sooner or later and we have played poorly but still have points on the boardd.'"
True. Which must be worrying for the rest of SL because we've already played Hull Huddersfield Bradford Leeds Wigan, and in nine days Catalans, all away and we haven't even played well once really.
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| Quote ="21-12"Myler was extremely poor for you lot last night, didnt seem to get involved in attack and got targeted time and time again from Saints in defence, worst game iv seen him play for you. Saying that, there's no shame in an 18 point defeat last night, Saints were brilliant in all aspects of the game, brutal defence and fantastic free flowing attacking rugby, I fear the worst for us good friday.'"
Games are won and lost in the forwards. They rarely get the man of the match nor the headlines in victory, and often are forgotten in defeat, but they are te reason you win or lose games. There were poor performances from our pivots in Myler Brears and Hodgeson, but every forward did something in the game that was far worse than any if them three did to lose us the game.
Chris Hill was our best forward last night but even he threw the ball straight to Saints, in yet another suicidal off-load, in the very first set in the second half.
The ONLY player who played well for us was Reilly (again)(our best player so far this season).
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| Quote ="danburge82"Games are won and lost in the forwards. ).'"
That is exactly what worries me about Good Friday, Mossop is injured again and Lauaki is banned which leaves us with Prescott and Lima and possibly Hock moving to prop.
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| I have always been a huge Myler fan. I do agree that his defence has improved massively the past 18 months. It's in attack that I think he need's to improve and I never thought I'd say that.
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| A great bit of business by Salford. One of the few things we have done right in recent years is to get a big fee for a player who's main skill is backing up a break created by someone else.
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| Nice to see people now agreeing with me about Myler.
The only 1 laughing is Martin Offiah, just send him back on loan to Widnes.
Can't wait to see Fatbelly's totally unblinkered player ratings from last night.
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| But he's better than Sam Tomkins isn't he?
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| Richard myler outstanding player, at salford he had a free roll, at warrington its more structured play , Think you should get of his back really got a lot of talent and quiet sure Tony smith nows his strengths and weakness which every proffesionals got , was far worse players on friday love to have him back at widnes!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But he's better than Sam Tomkins isn't he?
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Well you're entitled to your opinion like everybody else Rogues.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But he's better than Sam Tomkins isn't he?
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Ho he isn't
Edit: Typo, should have been no.
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| Quote ="the ditch"Riley in defence saved a couple of scores tonite!
Not going to start Bagging Players because of one result,especially against some team that has trotted out at Old Trafford for the past five Seasons...'"
Myler took some hits from Ade Gardner when he was running the ball back and he put in some tackles on some of our big, hard running forwards. Your forwards weren't being given the chance to make many metres. For me, as a Saints fan your best players were Riley, Atkins, and Myler (for his defence). Blame shouldn't be landed at the feet of Myler just yet.
And it's the Last =#FF00006 Grand Finals that we have trotted out at!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But he's better than Sam Tomkins isn't he?
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Why again should Bridge of been sent
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| Quote ="St_Cunningham_no9"Myler took some hits from Age Gardner when he was running the ball back and he put in some tackles on some of our big, hard running forwards. Your forwards weren't being given the chance to make many metres. For me, as a Saints fan your best players were Riley, Atkins, and Myler (for his defence). Blame shouldn't be landed at the feet of Myler just yet.
And it's the Last =#FF00006 Grand Finals that we have trotted out at!'"
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| Quote ="wire-till-i-die"Why again should Bridge of been sent
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| I’m getting bored with this now; Rogues, just answer the loving question.
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| Quote ="St_Cunningham_no9"Myler took some hits from Age Gardner when he was running the ball back and he put in some tackles on some of our big, hard running forwards. Your forwards weren't being given the chance to make many metres. For me, as a Saints fan your best players were Riley, Atkins, and Myler (for his defence). Blame shouldn't be landed at the feet of Myler just yet.
And it's the Last =#FF00006 Grand Finals that we have trotted out at!'"
Was this intentional?
Also 1 in 6? eek. That's like a 16% success rate.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Was this intentional?
Also 1 in 6? eek. That's like a 16% success rate.'"
No, just that some fans like to forget we've made the last 6 Grand Finals.
But I agree that the yield of titles from the number of consecutive Grand Final appearances is rather embarassing.
Back to topic though, I agree with some people that Myler needs to become more vocal on the pitch and direct the play, however I certainly don't agree with making him a scape goat. Win as a Team, Lose as a Team is the motto I think fits well here. Shame Saints couldn't apply that philosophy when Royce was in charge.
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| At least we weren't the first team to win league leaders and not make the final. Any idea who that was?
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| Quote ="1905"I’m getting bored with this now; Rogues, just answer the loving question.
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He can't purely based on his age. Senility does crazy things to the mind. He's simply forgotten what he posted after the Huddersfield game.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Getting tired of this Jon Clarke was poor/average - get used to it. You make him sound like a Roby. He would never ever get in a serious SL competing side other than virtue of Cullens fecked up 4 year contract so he saw out his tail end with Wire. Smith chose Higham over him. Period.'"
Love this.
I've watched the tries in Widnes games this year and starting with Lautiti walking past Clarke in round one, I've subsequently seen him trying to grab shirts in many of their other matches this season. He's gash. End of!
As for Myler, he's not hitting the straps really but the team collectively haven't been great and we got found out on friday. My biggest concern is that there doesn't seem to be any notable biff in the forwards. Carvell is nowhere near his best and don't get me started on Wood. Think he needs a week off. Morley has been generally ok but still, nowhere near his best. Chris Hill has been brilliant in my opinion. Since coming on at the Galpharm against Hudds he hasn't looked out of place. He's tough and works hard. Shame those with a shat load more experience aren't following him.
I like Waterhouse as he provides a lot of hard work. But I couldn't help feeling that Louis Anderson would have been useful for us on friday. We struggled to lift ourselves with either a big hit or a strong run and the longer the game continued, you could sense the Saints players knew they were physically in control. We needed to start hard and with no mistakes.
We achieved neither.
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| i used to like it wen we kicked off and gave them the ball first so we can set the tone and punish them wen they get the ball, only 1 player has done that all season and he was banned for friday!
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