It's a testament to McBanana's inadequacy that Shatkins will probably (and undeservedly) get a centre birth ahead of him.

where is George Carmont when you need him?

Yes, this Board is sinking to new depths, just like you say, mainly because we actually allow stupid foul mouthed individuals like yourself to participate. You also couldn't resist slagging off James Graham on your own site.

James Graham was poor tonight, hence I slagged him off on MY board. What's your problem?

He wasn't poor at all. If every England prop played like him every week then we would be in a better position for players than we are now. My main complaint is your use of bad language when there's no need for it. The lad's surname is Atkins. People have been kicked off the Wigan Board for far less.

i think the main problem with you is that you appear to know nothing about rugby league.

Aha! The old I don't belive in the hype of the Wolfs' board so I must know nothing chestnut. Ryan Atkins will do nothing in the 4 nations (if he wrongly gets picked in the first place).

Tenner says i'm right.

Almost right, there is nothing beyond the flat earth that is the Wigan Metropolitan boundary.

tenner says you cant even tie your own shoes laces.

Pack it in, i've had a drink and can't be fecked banning anyone but i will for trolling.

I started this thread? Will I be banned??

No

unless you want me to that is?

Explain why you don't think Atkins will fail (again) on the International level.

he wont fail because he has easily been the best centre in SL this season.

by an absolute mile.... and you wish he was a Wigan player..... because he has been leagues above carmont and joel tomkins....if he played for wigan you would be having wet dreams about him.

he is so much better than anything you have its almost laughable.

So much better than anything we have that he was in the dream team above Carmont and also selected on the short list for MOS above Sam Tomkins.... oh wait...

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Considering he's the most improved player in SL this season and was up with the very best performers in the competition on the last few months, I'm glad that will happen. If you can't see Atkins is now a very good player the you're too bias/bitter to comment.

I still don't think Atkins is the real deal if I'm honest. I think he's probably the best left centre in SL, but I'm not sure that will translate to International RL.

He was shut down very easily against Leeds last week, and if they playoffs was a step up in intensity, you can times that again by whatever. I'm more than happy for him to prove me wrong like.

Lee Briers asked Atkins on twitter early last week when he was joining up with the England squad. Atkins reply was " I'm not , i'm not playing " .

Reed and Bridge at centre for me in the 4 nations.

Atkins isn't in the training squad. Playing the form centre in SL would be too much like common sense for McBanana.

I dont think his game has suffered to that degree but as a centre he is not in the class of Atkins, Shenton, Carmont etc. He would not make the England team as a centre. As a second row he is a better player so i do think him moving position might have cost him the starting second row position for England but i do think he would make the squad if he has not gone by then.

Hope you are joking about that.

England squad englandrl.co.uk/team/england-men Knights squad englandrl.co.uk/englandrl.php?id=705

England squad englandrl.co.uk/team/england-men Knights squad englandrl.co.uk/englandrl.php?id=705

If Bridge doesn't get picked for England, has Tony Smith cost him his international place?

To be fair about Joel, if your replacement centre options are Goulding and Marsh, you'd get more joy out of just about anyone in that position. Joels been decent but for me doesnt have the natural ball skills for a top class centre.

The 4 nations squad and Knights squad are announced tomorrow, the players find out today.

Didnt Joel play in the last England game?
How can anyone have cost him his place then?

Alfie - Good point to make a point regarding Bridge and Smith
At certain times coaches need to pick players in positions out of neccessity(sp) and Madges hand was forced.
It had very little to do with Hoffman and a lot to do with Gleeson