And punching someone in the eye when he is already on the floor tackled going nowhere, do you rate that as cowardly ? Answers on a post card please.

Yes it was a house tactic to punch a tackled player and at least wire fans will admit so unlike you pie eaters stating its a fair challange flying in low 3rd man in

nevermind eh, there's always next year

Need to change your Sig and add in a '2012, 2013' for Warrington beneath the Saints bit!

Has anyone found Higham yet? Last seen in McIlorum's back pocket.

I think the same thing everytime I see one of your posts.

So the two challenges on Wigan players were worthy of a sending off and a sin-bin, yet the challenge on a Warrington player warranted nothing.

Aye, sounds like a totally unbiased view there no doubt.

The Hansen challenge was legal. The two aforementioned Wire challenges weren't.

Hansen did nothing wrong. Perfectly legal. I suggest you watch it back.

Westwood and cooper both attacked players faces with clenched fists. Big bad ben had his usual pop at a half back. Who then went on to win the harry sunderland. Rugby gods and all that.

Went to watch my u9 lad train as usual this morning. They were doing defensive work. Their coach up until recently was a top amateur ref and was in charge of referee training- he retired from it this year. Coach had them tackling one up top one below, he did not however coach them to punch anyone in the face....

Can't beat a bit of biff.If you want go + play netball feel free.Rugby is a man's game you know where just sometimes players lose their cool so i say keep the biff in our great sport as it will be a sad day when it disappears for good.The great Mr Boyd would be spitting feathers seeing some of these winging posts.

You really are the end of a bell.

I would have loved to have seen your posts if Mcilorum had punched St Briers in the face when prone... You would be apoplectic!!!

2014 ... year of the wolfs

I've always been a fan of the biff as that's what i was brought up on not the whinging about a little punch here + there.Probably why i'm in a minority who likes Ryan Bailey as he loves to mix it.As i say go watch netball if you don't want to see it.Only thing that i had to smile about was Benny's punch

I don't mind a bit of biff- two adrenaline fuelled blokes squaring up adds a nice Bit of spice. An unprovoked punch to the face of someone with three blokes on top of him without his hands free isn't biff.
If that wasn't on the rugby field it would be ABH.

So 2 minutes in to a game he lost his cool and decided it was a good idea to punch another player in the face who was already tackled and pinned to the floor.Yeah thats a real act of bravado.The Biff as you call it has nothing to do with cowardly acts such as this where the other guy is in no position to even defend himself or throw a bit of Biff back.Thats called an act of cowardice and is not something to be admired or accepted.

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Try winning a Super League you might smile a little more

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I'm all for a bit of biff, Infact I like many others enjoy watching a fight, it adds to the excitement, As others have said though punching a player who is tackled with 3 people on top of him square in the face isn't biff.

I've watched it back and the Hansen tackle whilst arguably a bit uncontrolled had no intent in it at all for me, The contact was blatantly with Ratchfords hip, It looks like Ratchfords foot got caught in an awkward position and H had no where to go and landed on him akwardly, It certainly wasn't something like I've seen Jeoff Lima do a couple of times, Absolutely no intent there. McIlorum got a high shot in but when you've got Westwood getting away with what was practically assault and then add Mike Coopers clenched first to Richards face into the mix I don't think there's much to cry about from a wire point of view.

I'm still in shock tbh. After that spell in the first half I thought it was over, we had no chance .... but I haven't seen us dominate wire like we did in that second half for a long time.

Do Pies deserve the DOUBLE....NO.
Lucky gits....hardly the team of the decade, never mind season.

Do Pies deserve the DOUBLE....NO.
Lucky gits....hardly the team of the decade, never mind season.

Maybe Wigan didn't deserve it but the players earned it.
Huddersfield, LLS, Beaten on the way to the GF
Leeds, Beaten on the way to the GF
Warrington, beaten in the final. Choose a harder route?
As for a bit of biff is ok,it's not tiddlywinks but cheap shots aren't on,
It's rough enough look at what happened to Joel, fair open play when player got his head in the wrong place.
As for Ratchford, let the authorities decide on that
Hope they both make quick full recoveries.

Who deserved to win the Challenge Cup and Super League then?

Hey Pie Troll, you guys did....you lost 9 league games, but Pies were simply awesome.....ONE OF THE BEST SL SIDES EVER.

right, you've had twenty four hours,