Easiest £20 i've made in a longtime.Bet365 Hull + 18 + i'd have stuck on more if i could have afforded it but hey ho gotta be thankful of small mercies.

As i saw it Westwood was good, Laithwaite was okay, Asotasi excusing that early knock and short spells on the pitch was the best prop, Hill was okay. England okay, Harrison looked completely knackered.?
Sims couldn't break flatulence but still stank, extremely costly with errors. One that swung the whole momentum when we were 10 points up with 10 mins to go.

I am becoming really fed up with these lacklustre performances. Where was the enthusiasm, the flair, the offloads, the defence? Atkins was a waste of time as was Sims and Asotasi and Laithwaite. What is Myler for. Shovelling the ball along the line without asking any questions of the defence. Where is the speed off the defensive line as we had against Leeds?
And a word on Mr Silverwood. I don't mind if a referee is consistent with his decisions, but penalising us on our own line for offside when he ignored Hull in the same position. I am getting disillusioned with the game being ruined by refereeing incompetence.
Am I wrong or have we lost all our flair since Agar joined us?

But i'll say it again what the hell did our so called scout see in this lazy ?Was he drunk when he gave him a contract?Not fit to lace Boyd,Jacksons,Tamati's or Cullens shoes and many others who i've missed.

We'll be up nowhere challenging for nothing. We're dead on a 6th/7th placed, mid-table average side.

No critique of Silverwood from me. We created our own recipes for this loss.

I wasn't blaming Silverwood for our defeat, just pointing out that refereeing inconsistencies are really peeing me off.
Our loss was our own fault, and we need a goal kicker sharpish.

That was a shockingly bad performance and the worst (most irresponsible) display I have ever seen from Atkins. If we had not somehow managed a very late score against Widnes we would have been looking at two wins from our last nine games by now.

Kicking...I think we should have bought Danny Tickle when he left the Pies.

Correct W/O the form against Leeds has held up....we looked far better playing a weak Leeds outfit who's losses performances since have been below expectations, but they are playing with only one of their three main pivots.

Wakefield only just managed to put 17 against us and only had one fit prop.

Widnes lost it, as opposed to us winning it.

The 3 wins we've had have clear excuses. Our form is pathetic.

Danny Tickle??? This has got to be a wind up!!

Ten years ago I'd would definitely have had Tickle.
Every good team can carry an excellent goal kicker, but Tickle was actually a very good back rower.

He was ever present at the Pies until his confidence was completely shattered.
He soon refound his form.

Well glad I didn't go today.
300 mile round trip saved and all the petrol and time.
Did a good bit of work in the garden and then had a swim. Really tired now.
Probably done more work than some of the players by the sounds of it!

Sounds like we've got more than a bit of work to do.
The way things are going it might be some time before I go again.
Don't mind if we lose whilst playing well (although not keen on it !), but to lose and play cr@p is not acceptable.

Actually though the best side in the comp at the moment are Wigan. Their youngsters are top rate and I can't see past them at the moment.

Ten years ago Roty Asotasi was prop of the year in the NRL...... you sign old you get old

As I've said before, it's VERY rare I come on here and slag a player, but I'm sick to the t1t5 with this waster.

Something like 20 mins in, we work the ball towards the left, Atkins takes the pass, and has a SIMPLE pass to make to Ormsby (who had a probable overlap). BUT NO, old glory boy tries to be Superman, gets tackled, loses the ball in the process, and Hull work the ball down the field. 5 tackles later, they're in for one of the day's poor defensive tries given away.

20 odd years ago, when Duane Mann left, we replaced him with John Thursfield, a player so Godawful, opposition fans didn't even bother to take the micky out of him. BUT, I can honestly say, but for his lack of any RL skill, the fella certainly wasn't lazy. He always tackled (even if it was third man) and always "put a shift in". Paul Cullen was never a half back as long as he had a hole in his bum. Not exactly a decent centre either . But again, NEVER EVER shirked responsibility or effort.

FFS, Atkins has international caps. I can tolerate a dip in form. Every player has them. But this waste of space just "does it" when he wants, and that's nowhere near often enough, imo.

I know you have a thing with Asotasi, biccy, but Atkins (most of the time) really does make my pooh itch. I just wish he'd love off. I don't care if he scores the match winning try in a GF/CCF. I CANNOT TOLERATE LAZINESS IN A WIRE SHIRT.


To quote Oliver Cromwell

"You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

He's 33.

There's your agenda right there, Sims has been pretty good for most part of the season while you have been saying how good Roy is, completely contrary to everyone else.

Sims may have had a questionable game today but asotasi was still anonymous. And was it him that did the first pass put of dummy half to Harrison afte higham went off?

Silverwood was appalling today, not as appalling as our goal line defence granted, and I'd be saying that if it was a draw or if we'd won.

Refused to pull hull up on grabbing and dragging our players down by the necks and his on off approach to pulling up forward passes(one of which he pinged us for correctly but lineham still decided he would bring gene down with both hands around his neck)

No Agenda FMC. I tell it as it is Roy has been poop and was a disgrace last season. This season better in short spells and not any way near as bad as last season. Disappointing he was one of the better props.

Sims had a awesome game v Leeds and was our liability today.

Liability? Really?

Just like to say thanks for the wire fans for chanting going down going down, it was just the lift we needed lol

Seriously, once mini went in to make it 26-22 I was confident we would get another to tie/win

Not bad for an average team to beat saints and wire away and lose to wiggan by 1

As for silverwood he was garbage for us too, allowed your team to be offside every play when fc were on your 10 metre line in the first half

Been thinking of Atkins best position(not centre) wing? second row? loose forward? but now I've got it utility player at North Wales Crusaders(not sure if he`ll get in on current form)

Passenger (no pun intended) seat in a car, going over the Pennines, back to Yorkshire.

Hill looked tired and Sims possibly had his worst game as well. Atkins seemed knackered most of the game and has not looked the same since his injury. The only light was Ormsby who to me looks a fantastic prospect with good vision and pace. I would give Penny another rn out at least he look like he can create something out of nothing. TS needs to sort his tactics out as well we look very predictable when attacking.

Oh well onwards and Upwards

FMC.
Giving away a penalty at the end of a set on our own line is poor.
10 points up at that moment.
Inexcusable action.

Sims was our second best prop in my eyes - although I accept he wasn't great, and how anyone can say Asotasi was our best prop is completely beyond me. We all have our opinions though I suppose

Goal line defence was absolutely shocking today and seriously needs looking at.

Any comments on the final play of the game? Seemed strange that silverwood stopped play as Sneyds drop goal attempt missed, only for the ref to give him another shot from a clean play the ball 10m out....?