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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"You wrote "That's the great thing about facts. Hard to argue against." Immediately after Rico had written "Great graph, they are...". That suggests you are supporting Jimathy and his conclusions from the graph. The data points are facts (league positions), the interpretations are not facts, simply opinions. Hardly surprising then that Rico was irritated.
For the record, I too thought TS was deserving of more time at the start of the season. I disagreed with you about waiting to see how the year progressed because a) TS has brought us more success than we have had for a long time and b) the recruitment should have strengthened the team over 2016. I suspect like UR, I now believe he should go because of the team performance over the last few months. That is not an 'epiphany' - (which is defined as happening at a given moment), it's a judgement call over several months of shocking performances.'"
Spot on on all fronts apart from the fact that I wasn't really irritated, well no more than usual.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"You wrote "That's the great thing about facts. Hard to argue against." Immediately after Rico had written "Great graph, they are...". That suggests you are supporting Jimathy and his conclusions from the graph. The data points are facts (league positions), the interpretations are not facts, simply opinions. Hardly surprising then that Rico was irritated.
For the record, I too thought TS was deserving of more time at the start of the season. I disagreed with you about waiting to see how the year progressed because a) TS has brought us more success than we have had for a long time and b) the recruitment should have strengthened the team over 2016. I suspect like UR, I now believe he should go because of the team performance over the last few months. That is not an 'epiphany' - (which is defined as happening at a given moment), it's a judgement call over several months of shocking performances.'"
"That suggests" That is your interpretation. I was referring to the league positions which I am glad you also agree are facts.
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| All these negative topics re the coaching staff,the team, the club & supporters have only been fuelled by lack of comment from the club. The supporters, we are led to believe, are a vital & well respected part of the club. A well levelled statement from the club about our current predicament & future intentions to improve matters would work wonders.
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| Quote ="ninearches"All these negative topics re the coaching staff,the team, the club & supporters have only been fuelled by lack of comment from the club. The supporters, we are led to believe, are a vital & well respected part of the club. A well levelled statement from the club about our current predicament & future intentions to improve matters would work wonders.'"
Guess thsts what the fans forum later this month is supposed to do, but i suspect not as it will more likley be full of hand picked people.
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| That man could be our next PR man . A few soundbites like that & the fans will forget what happened on the pitch.
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| Quote ="chnloveEt"singapore difficulties some states Not To perservere For Falun Gong cbs san francisco bay area
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(HOANG DINH NAM/AFP/Getty photo files)SACRAMENTO (AP) plastic ban senator alleges Democratic legal management 're squashing the man's try out and withstand up for practitioners within the not allowed chinese language courses spiritual movements being forced from the costa rica government of china and taiwan.The united states senate this morning shelved a emblematic image resolution condemning persecution to Falun Gong professional once lawmakers delivered a letter within oriental consulate notification the scale could possibly be damaging into contact amidst ca,arizona and as well as cina.Falun Gong, described as Falun Dafa, works factors of Buddhism, Taoism because programs of that inventor thanks to reflection and maneuvers to both mental and physical very well being. singapore regards because a risky conspiracy and a menace to social sense of balance and against the law some of the exercise in 1999.Sen. joel Anderson, A Republican against Alpine out side san diego, made an effort over and over again immediately to connect his answer to unrelated outstanding actions offered by dems, integrating one to demonstrate solidarity with your persecuted LGBT forum in Chechnya. 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Going to have to agree with this.
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| A good point well made.
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| Funny thread this looking back. #graphgate and blips vs trends. I suppose we did rise up a position from 10th.
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(HOANG DINH NAM/AFP/Getty photo files)SACRAMENTO (AP) plastic ban senator alleges Democratic legal management 're squashing the man's try out and withstand up for practitioners within the not allowed chinese language courses spiritual movements being forced from the costa rica government of china and taiwan.The united states senate this morning shelved a emblematic image resolution condemning persecution to Falun Gong professional once lawmakers delivered a letter within oriental consulate notification the scale could possibly be damaging into contact amidst ca,arizona and as well as cina.Falun Gong, described as Falun Dafa, works factors of Buddhism, Taoism because programs of that inventor thanks to reflection and maneuvers to both mental and physical very well being. singapore regards because a risky conspiracy and a menace to social sense of balance and against the law some of the exercise in 1999.Sen. joel Anderson, A Republican against Alpine out side san diego, made an effort over and over again immediately to connect his answer to unrelated outstanding actions offered by dems, integrating one to demonstrate solidarity with your persecuted LGBT forum in Chechnya. Anderson has been a included audio at your demonstration Friday within the far eastern consulate in bay area.don assistance in the case when democrats vote not on your life, Anderson rumoured. They add have a to stop the minority becoming found out and they certainly choose have a that people the genocides oppose. Underland, A spokesperson to get us senate us president guru Tem Kevin de Leon, h seattle, rejected to actually brief review.congress have now one week got out of up to now these types of people adjourn through-out the year. Anderson vowed to carry on studies your man's squabble pick up, in addition to a tries to attach settlement it isn't offered by democrats.Falun Gong fans allege the fact that experts in china's websites appear to have been executed and simply most of the parts involuntarily cut down in order for transplants electric powered the far east federal emphatically turns down.of their mail to assist you to lawmakers, chinese language language officials condemned an trend to pressed lawmakers not to look at decisionerson.could very well far havoc the helpful contact between the condition of ca and china based websites and considerably injured the sense of chinese language program most people [url=https://yourbride.com/chnlove/Chnlove Real or Fake[/url and huge discussion board in, talked about ones traditional, old september. 1 in addition to ok'd more name with consulate traditional at san francisco bay area.china and tiawan and consequently georgia posses deeply ties all the way through deal vacation, and therefore their precious governments get cooperating on endeavour to decrease varieties of greenhouse petrol by-products. Gov. 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The product reviews cant be found as upmarket as of predominantly detrimental living in cults us properly european moviehouses, And i don't know what to model of this propaganda combat involving Falun Dafa and chinese language Communist authorities. What i know as an accepted [url=http://chnlove-scam.tumblr.com/CHnLove.com[/url conspiracy company over the past quarter of a century may be that i'd personally decrease anyone taken from feeling the weird to irrational teachings of Li Hongzhi.'"
Hi Mr Cullen.
We’ve missed your analysis on SKY.
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| Shirley it can't be just me who just scrolled down through that.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Shirley it can't be just me who just scrolled down through that.'"
And who knew there was a LGBT forum in Chechnya? I learn so much from these message board debates.
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| Resignation has hit the Mayor hard.
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| The fans are not to blame for anything, without them the club is nothing.
One thing missing from the debate – improvement.
Surely we’re better than last season, we’ve won 2 games already.
Throughout the thread you’ve all alluded to the most important factors, the great infrastructure of the club, plus the fact we’ve got money these days. We’re too good for 2 wins in 5, so that trend will most likely not continue. If that becomes 2 from 6, it’ll be 3+ from the next 6.
It’s obvious, we’ll improve this season on the last, then get even better. We’re reliant on Roberts for that and you can’t expect him to come all the way from Australia and be brilliant straight away. He’s too good for Super League, if we can get the best out of him during the next few years, we’ve no worries.
Dreading reading this forum Monday morning if we lose to St Helens.
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| Quote ="zzhead"The fans are not to blame for anything, without them the club is nothing.
One thing missing from the debate – improvement.
Surely we’re better than last season, we’ve won 2 games already.
Throughout the thread you’ve all alluded to the most important factors, the great infrastructure of the club, plus the fact we’ve got money these days. We’re too good for 2 wins in 5, so that trend will most likely not continue. If that becomes 2 from 6, it’ll be 3+ from the next 6.
It’s obvious, we’ll improve this season on the last, then get even better. We’re reliant on Roberts for that and you can’t expect him to come all the way from Australia and be brilliant straight away. He’s too good for Super League, if we can get the best out of him during the next few years, we’ve no worries.
Dreading reading this forum Monday morning if we lose to St Helens.'"
To be fair this is an old thread from last year revived by a bizarre post (even for this board) by a Chinese love bot (I think)
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| To be honest the only time the forum comes to life is when we lose.
If we beat Saints the plaudits will be minimal & the forum will be as quiet as a grave till the squad is announced for Catalans.
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| Warrington fans have unrealistic expectations and think they are a Big Club when the bottom line is they've not been champions since the 50s.
They also believe they are a major rival of Wigan when they are not. Middle 8s last season for you wasn't it?
Every season the Wire lot spout off about being Super League champions and it just doesn't happen. No wonder fans of every club hammer you with that 'its always your year' chant.
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| I think it is only the fans of other clubs who are obsessed with & love to spout on about the Mighty Wire not being champions.
Most Wire fans are happy to go with the flow & look on anything we win as a bonus. We don't need to chase silver ware to have a good time at the match.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"Warrington fans have unrealisexpectations and think they are a Big Club when the bottom line is they've not been champions since the 50s.
They also believe they are a major rival of Wigan when they are not. Middle 8s last season for you wasn't it?
Every season the Wire lot spout off about being Super League champions and it just doesn't happen. No wonder fans of every club hammer you with that 'its always your year' chant.'"
What a load of garbage you spout. You will never hear a wire fan going on about winning the GF unless we are winning 25-18 at OT with 50 seconds to go. Its sky obsession that does it.
Do CC and LLS wins not mean anything these days?
As for the chant, you are just as likely to hear it sung by our fans as away ones.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"Warrington fans have unrealistic expectations and think they are a Big Club when the bottom line is they've not been champions since the 50s.
They also believe they are a major rival of Wigan when they are not. Middle 8s last season for you wasn't it?
Every season the Wire lot spout off about being Super League champions and it just doesn't happen. No wonder fans of every club hammer you with that 'its always your year' chant.'"
Are you THEJonnoThe Great?
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| Wow some people are really simple.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"Warrington fans have unrealistic expectations and think they are a Big Club when the bottom line is they've not been champions since the 50s.
They also believe they are a major rival of Wigan when they are not. Middle 8s last season for you wasn't it?
Every season the Wire lot spout off about being Super League champions and it just doesn't happen. No wonder fans of every club hammer you with that 'its always your year' chant.'"
What utter . You won't find many Wire supporters saying "it's our year". If anything I'd say the majority are quite realistic and just want a team that entertains, anything else is a bonus. We also have sense of humour hence why we join in the chant. All down to Sky repeating the same "is this Warrington's year" BS. The sarcastic "it's always our year" flag 2 years ago didn't help though, we'll be stuck with it until we do win the big one, which could be a while yet!
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Can't recall their last win of any cup tbh.
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| morning Folks, johnno the great has received a warning for his 'contribution' any further instances can you click the report button so we can keep an eye on him, thanks
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"morning Folks, johnno the great has received a warning for his 'contribution' any further instances can you click the report button so we can keep an eye on him, thanks'" love it when FMC flex's
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"Warrington fans have unrealistic expectations and think they are a Big Club when the bottom line is they've not been champions since the 50s.
They also believe they are a major rival of Wigan when they are not. Middle 8s last season for you wasn't it?
Every season the Wire lot spout off about being Super League champions and it just doesn't happen. No wonder fans of every club hammer you with that 'its always your year' chant.'"
What a load of old shyite.
I’ve only read one post this Winter that’s said we should be looking at being champions come Autumn, ONE. If anything Wire fans are pessimistic compared to other sets of fans! What we have understood is that our team from 2010-2013 was one of the best teams of the last few decades that we’re not crowned champions and financially we are in a position that not many other clubs are in. So we’ll voice dissatisfaction when the club isn’t run well from top to bottom. There’s no excuses why it isn’t with the backing we have. But nowhere in that do we say “we’ll win the lot”
That chant comes from Stevo tipping either us or Hull FC to win the GF every year for about six years but it seems to have stuck with us with other sets of fans because we lost three GFs rather than sticking with Hull. It never had anything to with us fans lauding our team and saying we’d win it.
Ever since then simpletons make generalisations and get the wrong end of the stick like you have here.
As for Wigan, WE look at Wigan as big rivals because we’ve been in a lot of big games against them in recent years. We don’t care how they look at us. But that’s how rivalries start (that or comparing trophy wins). That’s why Wigan and Saints has no real rivalry before the 1950s because Saints never had any big games with Wigan and had barely won a thing before the mid-50s (1 championship 0CCs in their first 80 years) and probably never registered on any other club’s radars. But then when they started winning things, they did.
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