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| Quote ="Paul Youane"1. I would imagine they do "other work" on the other days. Whilst this may be private practise or even volunteer or teaching work it will still equate to a working week of over 40 hours.
2. The investment will be from central government or raised through a LIFT scheme (similar to PFI). Expect the scheme to be shelved post election.
You would have 2 private practices within 25m - just think Harley Street.
I agree that those able to pay should pay for health care to subsidise those that aren't able to pay (although I would do this through income tax).'"
1. Speculation. There were 3 GP's prior to the renegoatiated contracts and the GP you saw in the day came to see you in the middle of the night if you were sick. Not now. You get a GP who can barely speak English (typically) and who does not have access to your notes or any clue as to your chronic medical conditions.
2. You are probably right.
3. Got no beef with private health practices. My comment was about retail outlets.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"In relation to Tory plans for parents to operate schools: what happens when their kids reach school leaving age and their motivating self-interest disappears. Who run the schools then?'"
Totally agree. I see the very precious, assiduous souls at Croft Primary on the PTA insisiting on CofE communal worship when the whole point I sent my kid there was for a secular education as it is not a religous school. Why the hell my daughter should close her eyes, press her palms together in some rediculous arcane ritual in celebrating an outdated desert fairystory I will never know.
The PTA generally sucks and is a cosy club for busyboddies/interferers. Let the headmaster get on with the job as they see fit and be accountable to the LEA. Period.
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| Quote ="Wires71"
The PTA generally sucks and is a cosy club for busyboddies/interferers. Let the headmaster get on with the job as they see fit and be accountable to the LEA. Period.'"
Governing Body surely?
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| Quote ="Wires71"
I only posted as an example of "waste". You would not have 2 private sector retail outlets within 25m of each other.
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How close are the Co-op and the Sainsburys in Culcheth?
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| The "big society" ideas are one of the oldest tricks in the political book. If you want to give people a positive spin on cutting their services, describe it as "getting government off their backs".
When it comes time to call it a day on the NHS and move to an entirely privatised system, the way to say it is "I don't believe that decisions about people's healthcare should be left to bureaucrats in Whitehall....I believe people should have choice"
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"In 1918, the Labour Party introduced Clause 4, which was essentially wholesale nationalisation, as the money was there to fund the modernisation of public services, most notably the railways.
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If I had any idea what point you were trying to get across I'd possibly agree with you.
Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Out of interest, what sort of state do you honestly believe this country would be in if the Tories had been in power for the last 13 years??
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That sort of statement so bloody annoys me but demonstrates how weak your argument is in defending Labour - they haven't been in power, Labour have.
You can't possibly say the Tories would have done this or the Tories would have done that because they have been in opposition for 13 years while Brown has had his hand on the controls for 13 years.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"How close are the Co-op and the Sainsburys in Culcheth?'"
Sorry, I meant the same retail outlets.
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| The next set of polls could be very interesting, I would say 'yes, he's completely blown it.'
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| The Tories should jump all over this and explain how this shows the real contempt that GB holds the general public in. The general public are a hindrance to GB in his pursuit of continued power.
He's also gutless. If she was a "bigot" he should stand by his comments, not spend > 30 mins in her house apologising to her. He looks weak, pathetic and two faced.
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| Definately. Brown is merely a pig-ignorant bluster merchant, with slightly more political credibility than Prescott.
Having (myself) listened to the woman's points, she had valid opinions, without the least bit sounding bigotted, and then Brown throws his toys out of the pram. Contrast this with Cameron's discussion with the father of the lad with Spina Bifida yesterday. The two of them were never going to a agree, yet Cameron showed a good amount of dignity in their discussion. I'm no Tory before anybody gets on their soapbox.
Also, Brown's performance on today's Jeremy Vine prog, left a lot to be desired. His tone of voice and general "I know better than you" attitude, to a voting audience of millions, a week before a General Election, was dreadfull. So much for spin-doctoring and making yourself media-savvy.
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| Just caught this now after being out - what did she actually say? Up-sum, naturally...
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"Just caught this now after being out - what did she actually say? Up-sum, naturally...'"
She probably made some heartfelt comments about eastern EU immigration. The gurner then probably forced a smile, said some platitudes then let his gob run away with him when he thought he was off-mic.
He then compounds it by grovelling to her in her own house.
He is shown to be disingenuous, indiscrete and pathetic. As most of us suspected anyway.
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| Our community is being swamped by immigrants (or words to that effect).
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Our community is being swamped by immigrants (or words to that effect).'"
She may have a point but we are not allowed to discuss it. We all know that. The term "swamp" may be considered a little emotive.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649448.stmFlocking[/url
Not swamped.
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| Quote ="Wires71"She may have a point but we are not allowed to discuss it. We all know that. The term "swamp" may be considered a little emotive.'"
I aatually think bigot is the wrong term. Prejudice would be more appropriate.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649448.stmFlocking[/url
Not swamped.'"
No harm in that question at all. It's not hugely erodite but it's fair enough. Mouthbreather lost his temper and was indiscrete.
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| "I blame myself for what is done, but you've got to remember that this was me being helpful to the broadcasters, with my microphone on, rushing into the car because I had to get to another appointment and they have chosen to play my private conversation. These things can happen, I apologise profusely to the lady concerned."
Above taken from BBC site. Unbelievable. Brown at his his worst. He's literally saying it's my fault, but it's not my fault, because I'm doing broadcasters a favour. Typical politician, never admitting FULLY that he's in the wrong. I'm surprised he's not brought up a Tory/Lib Dem gaffe to justify himself.
A BIGGER SPADE MR. BROWN?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt""I blame myself for what is done, but you've got to remember that this was me being helpful to the broadcasters, with my microphone on, rushing into the car because I had to get to another appointment and they have chosen to play my private conversation. These things can happen, I apologise profusely to the lady concerned."
Above taken from BBC site. Unbelievable. Brown at his his worst. He's literally saying it's my fault, but it's not my fault, because I'm doing broadcasters a favour. Typical politician, never admitting FULLY that he's in the wrong. I'm surprised he's not brought up a Tory/Lib Dem gaffe to justify himself.
A BIGGER SPADE MR. BROWN?'"
I await for his comments (or those on here) explaining that it was a Murdoch/Tory inspired plot to put a Sky News microphone on him.
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| It's the right who have the best conspiracy theories, Mr 71.
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| Quote ="Monmouth Wire"
That sort of statement so bloody annoys me but demonstrates how weak your argument is in defending Labour - they haven't been in power, Labour have.
You can't possibly say the Tories would have done this or the Tories would have done that because they have been in opposition for 13 years while Brown has had his hand on the controls for 13 years.'"
I'm not neccessarily defending Labour.....I'm simply pointing out that those who think we will enter some sort of idyllic paradise under Cameron & his assorted goons, are going to be sadly disappointed.
Labour have made mistakes undoubtedly, but the idea that the Tories are some sort of superior organisation is completely wrong....Just look at this ridiculous claim of mending the 'broken' society....Let's not forget that Thatcher completely destroyed societies in the 80's with her venomous vendetta against the working classes....There will be more to come under Cameron.
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| What a prick.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What a prick.'"
Apologies for that. It was what I was thinking I didn't mean to press submit.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Apologies for that. It was what I was thinking I didn't mean to press submit.'"
Its not your fault mate, its RLfans fault for giving you the ability to type it out on this forum. You were doing them a favour in contributing....
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