Martyn of course

i have no idea.... i remember us losing the opening game though at the magic weekend.

So lets not do that again, whatever it was.

Quite. I doubt you’ll find much correlation between our pre-season location and our performance that season

Bear Grylls?

I think we only started warm weather training in 2010 -

2010 - Tenerife
2011 - Tenerife
2012 - Australia
2013 - Tenerife
2014 - Australia
2015 - Tenerife
2016 - Tenerife
2017 - Tenerife

There are many reasons why we've played crap some years, class in others, sometimes won silverware, sometimes not, and lost a few GFs.

But going somewhere for warm weather training pre-season probably ranks about 37th in that list.

You must know him?

Yes but we are a rugby club not the boy scouts

Yes, he is chief Scout. However, someone posted lets get the boys training with the SAS. Somebody else then said bring in Ross Kemp, which i then said Bear Grylls. Bear Grylls was at least with 21 SAS for a time and may have an understanding of training in difficult climates, where as Ross Kemp was a Para, at least he was when he was in Emmerdale!!

yeah but Bear Grylls cheated in one of his SAS training missions on the Breacon Beacons as i recall from reading his book....( took a short cut and hid from the officers iirc.)
had he got found that would have been him and his mate booted out...

thats not the kind of attitude we want.......

I remember something Mal Menninga mentioned in his stint at Saints that at training they were often Sent around St Helens for a run but some of the Lads knew a shortcut that passed by a water outlet so they'd casually take the short cut, put Water on their heads and turn up at the finish panting and soaked as if they'd done the full distance ...and the coaches were non the wiser....

that'd be Bear Grylls as well....
plus he's money Mad he get a sniff of Morans Money and that would be another season in the Red....

I'd rather Chaddy take em running on the Dunes at Southport.....

I'd like to see them just running up and down the sand dunes at St Anne's or Formby over and over.
That'll soon get their fitness up.