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| Quote ="airlie"Wirefan
Would you have said that if they werent at Wembley next week and they had this team out?'"
if we werent at wembley ts would not of put that team out..why we are getting all worked up is beyond me..2nd in league guarenteed wembley next week,id take that every year even if it means a bum smacking every now and then
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"This, and the horror show at Salford, is the type of display you are bound to get when a competition becomes devalued in the way that Super League now is.
Soon as I saw the line-up tonight I envisaged something like this occuring - The only objective tonight has been getting through with a clean bill of health.
Whatever the pricks on Sky will say, none of the young players were playing for a Wembley place - In all seriousness, we already know the Cup Final line up, those young guys are just there to protect the likes of Briers and Hodgson from any unneccesary risk.
The only definite we learnt tonight is that Solomona is in his final few games with us and that Bridge isn't in the Wembley 17.'"
Pretty much spot on, Dita's
Solomona. Cheers Dave, for your efforts in the last couple of years. You've provided us with some quality entertainment. No game next week
Bridge. Yes, Christopher. You've played for the first team, today. Don't be expecting to play, next week.
Grix. Likewise. Your versatility is not enough to get yourself a shirt for Wembley.
Blythe, Williams, Evans etc haven't exactly enamoured themselves to anyone, after tonight.
And again, we look at the remaining games, and we look at SL's structure and think, why the #### do we need to spend £20 against Hudds (I can appreciate that those below us may not catch us).
FRUSTRATED because we've wasted winnable games, in favour of rotation.
HUGELY positive, on what is to come at Wembley, next week
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"if we werent at wembley ts would not of put that team out..why we are getting all worked up is beyond me..2nd in league guarenteed wembley next week,id take that every year even if it means a bum smacking every now and then'" Probably think different if you went + spent your hard earned money.
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| Agree with all that bar Grix lefty
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| Looked like a few wire fans kicking off towards the players at the end.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"if we werent at wembley ts would not of put that team out..why we are getting all worked up is beyond me..2nd in league guarenteed wembley next week,'"
Exactly, I can't believe people (Wire fans and those on here gloating at our result) are taking tonight seriously.....If anything tonight's game is just an illustration of how messed up this whole league competition now is - Wire have been ambling along for most of the season, only raising their game when it was needed. Tonight it definitely wasn't needed and it showed.
Does anybody out there seriously think if this was a Challenge Cup game, or a vital must-win fixture, that London would get within 20 or 30 points of a full strength Wire side??
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| Quote ="runningman29"Probably think different if you went + spent your hard earned money.'"
been there and bought enough tee shirts it happens in sport..be at wembley tho if we get battered so be it but remember the dark days when results like that were the norm and going to a final was a distant dream,remember them days,,be grateful we have a good team and a very good coach...take it you didnt go either
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| I wonder if TS will make eye contact with Hemmings.................
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| Tony Smith's not looked at Eddie once during that interview
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| Quote ="Gandy"Tony Smith's not looked at Eddie once during that interview
Weirdo!'"
If only you knew........
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| Quote ="Wirefan"I don't get it cod'ed what's your point?
My point is this year we are selecting games. Last year we just loved everyone and ended up running out of puff as a result.'"
So you elected to gain a fortunate point against Hull in your opening game?
And followed that up by electing to lose against Leeds, Hull KR, Saints, Catalans & Salford?
Sounds like a real plan to me
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| All dreadful if TS extends Williams contract it will be a disgrace the guy doesnt put in any effort should join Cas a club of his level
Wouldnt be too surprised if we battered Leeds next week and won the double
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| I'm ed off that I'm not ed off in the slightest about tonight.
We can lose our other two SL games too and it wont matter. We don't need to finish top, top-two is the aim and we've sewen that up already in games we put some effort into. We get the same benefits finishing second as we would top.
Not trying to take anything away from London, who were excellent (and they were, and I don't see how we would have beaten them had we been full strength at playing at 100% - Broncos you were excellent tonight!), but we played at about 50-60% effort levels tonight.
One thing I can cling on to is that the fans that made the trip down there spent a load of money (ticket, fuel, food/drink, day off work) and should be refunded by the 17 players.
There we go something to be ed off about.Haha!
Tonight was a training session, roll on next week!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"So you elected to gain a fortunate point against Hull in your opening game?
And followed that up by electing to lose against Leeds, Hull KR, Saints, Catalans & Salford?
Sounds like a real plan to me'"
I think you get it really....We needed to finish in the top 2 - We have done.
We needed to do so while keeping players fresh - We have done.
We wanted to seriously challenge for the two meaningful trophies on offer - We are doing.
That sounds like a pretty half decent plan to me??
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"been there and bought enough tee shirts it happens in sport..be at wembley tho if we get battered so be it but remember the dark days when results like that were the norm and going to a final was a distant dream,remember them days,,be grateful we have a good team and a very good coach...take it you didnt go either'" If you'd have read my post on page 4 of this thread you'd have noticed i didn't go + yes i was a diehard in the dark days of the hammerings on a regular basis + to be honest i thought the days of getting 50+ points put past us were long gone especially when people keep going on about the depth of squad we have + there's accepting defeat with effort but the Wembley excuse a week before does not warrant such a disgraceful performance.Rant over.
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| A lot of wire fans predicted a defeat or a narrow victory tonight. The margin was a surprise, but we are guaranteed 2nd spot. I can't see Wigan dropping points.
I only hope we field a strong side against the smellies for the last game. A defeat to them is unacceptable even in a pointless game.
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| I can fully understand why people are hacked off with this performance.
For me it shows we don't have the strength in depth some think we have.
BUT I can't agree with all the doom and gloom (a lot of it -yes, but not all).
TS has to take responsibility for this performance. Simply too many changes.
Tyke had a good game imo and is in contention for a starting place as Wembley.
I thought Blythe tried hard and did OK, but won't force himself into the 17.
Evans didn't really do a lot wrong, and neither did Williams but they were never really in contention for Wembley in my view.
Bridge had a poor game but so did Monas
Moz looked off the pace compared to Hill
Cooper tried hard but is 5th prop at the club (6th if you include Harrison).
Riley had a poor game but was safe under the bomb (except for when Myler got in the way).
Woody and Waterhouse seemed to get pulled off early but did ok (hope they're not injured).
Grix did himself no favours and Solo needs to get fitter (really looked overweight).
Atkins seemed to have an eye on Wembley
Myler and Ratch still need a Briers in the side.
Early days but (unless there are any knocks I guess Wembley line up will be -
Hodgson
Riley
Atkins
Ratchford
Monaghan
Briers
Myler
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| I really feel for all our fans that went to London tonight, they will have paid a lot of money and taken time off work to support their team.
Tony Smith has been fantastic for the Warrington Wolves but tonight's team selection has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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| nothing to add cept,jesus wept!!!!! roll on wembley when the *real wire* will turn up !!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I really feel for all our fans that went to London tonight, they will have paid a lot of money and taken time off work to support their team.
Tony Smith has been fantastic for the Warrington Wolves but tonight's team selection has left a bad taste in my mouth.'"
Yep - agreed.
I live in Northampton and watched it at the pub as couldn't face the friday night journey to see a performance that I expected to be dodgy.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I really feel for all our fans that went to London tonight, they will have paid a lot of money and taken time off work to support their team.
Tony Smith has been fantastic for the Warrington Wolves but tonight's team selection has left a bad taste in my mouth.'"
The problem is far more underlying than that.
Wire don't have the strength in depth that they perceive.
This will be harsh for many Wire fans to accept, but I think Smith will go in a couple of years when the "oldies" retire.
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| Quote ="fez1"I can fully understand why people are hacked off with this performance.
For me it shows we don't have the strength in depth some think we have.
BUT I can't agree with all the doom and gloom (a lot of it -yes, but not all).
TS has to take responsibility for this performance. Simply too many changes.
Tyke had a good game imo and is in contention for a starting place as Wembley.
I thought Blythe tried hard and did OK, but won't force himself into the 17.
Evans didn't really do a lot wrong, and neither did Williams but they were never really in contention for Wembley in my view.
Bridge had a poor game but so did Monas
Moz looked off the pace compared to Hill
Cooper tried hard but is 5th prop at the club (6th if you include Harrison).
Riley had a poor game but was safe under the bomb (except for when Myler got in the way).
Woody and Waterhouse seemed to get pulled off early but did ok (hope they're not injured).
Grix did himself no favours and Solo needs to get fitter (really looked overweight).
Atkins seemed to have an eye on Wembley
Myler and Ratch still need a Briers in the side.
Early days but (unless there are any knocks I guess Wembley line up will be -
Hodgson
Riley
Atkins
Ratchford
Monaghan
Briers
Myler
Carvell
Higham
Hill
Westwood
Waterhouse
Harrison
Monas
Wood
Moz
and one from Grix / Tyke'"
Tyke for me, he's been immense in the last two months.
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| Just got home after the game (I live just up the road so one vote for Broncos staying where they are). What an awful mess tonight. At the end of the game most Wires supporters gave the team a good reception, coming down to the wall and clapping them. There were one or two who were angry and shouting abuse and Riley got a bit upset and was shouting back for a while before he was calmed down.
Clearly next week was in everyone's minds but it is difficult to be sure just how good some of our younger players really are. It's also a bit of a shame to gain points against top teams just to throw them away here. We shouldn't lose by that much.
Oh well, roll on next week.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The problem is far more underlying than that.
Wire don't have the strength in depth that they perceive.
This will be harsh for many Wire fans to accept, but I think Smith will go in a couple of years when the "oldies" retire.'"
Or one oldie in particular - Lee Briers. Warrington never look the same without him and his unwashed flowing locks pulling the strings. Surely he can't keep going much longer either.
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