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| Quote ="Wire_85"Think it made him worse.
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He spends more time on our board then the pie board, ranting on about Sam 'the stoat' Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Ray Chicken"He spends more time on our board then the pie board, ranting on about Sam 'the stoat' Tomkins.'"
Seriously that is unbelievable I am a regular on cherry and white and have only started posting on here again since this was announced, the fans on here have an obsession with me... its like league freak on the VT great!
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Bet you run out of tissues alot in your house.'"
Creaming myself as we speak mate you just do it for me
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| Quote ="Mark"Hopefully that will satisfy the Wigan fans,. Seems a very fair and honest assesment.'"
Of course it will. Like you we await Tony Smith's every bit of nonsensical drivel then we can swallow it wholeheartedly while congratulating ourselves on what a fine, upstanding and honest man with absolutely no club agenda whatsoever we have as coach. No, really....
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| I think that Tony Smith has picked Myler over Tomkins because;
1) Good experience for a player that may be a regular in the England team for a number of years.
2) No real risk as I could play in the halves and England would still win.
3) Tomkins has a habit of being wound up too easily and could end up costing his team dear (King in CC SF) and the French are masters at niggling certain types of players.
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| If the plays tomkins against aus and NZ its only a matter of time before he gets his head ripped off, he will go into the game thinking he is better than everyone else playing and will get put in his place, hes a good player dont get me wrong, but he wont have a impact on the game like he has done for wigan all year
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| Quote ="Tin Soldier"I think that Tony Smith has picked Myler over Tomkins because;
1) Good experience for a player that may be a regular in the England team for a number of years.
So, unlike the superior o current form Tompkins then.
2) No real risk as I could play in the halves and England would still win.
Or to put it another way..so he can give his new club signing an international outing and hopefully help him regain his confidence/form at the expense of building a team and giving it the best possible chance to do well in this tournament with little risk of losing. Nice one TS.
3) Tomkins has a habit of being wound up too easily and could end up costing his team dear (King in CC SF) and the French are masters at niggling certain types of players.
Unlike, say Edwards or Gregory for example?
Or what about James Graham..he obviously isn't playing him then is he....oh, wait a minute.. I take it you were all for the non-inclusion of your own Lee Briers on the same grounds too when you were touting him for international duty a year or two back? Yeah, thought not'"
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| Quote ="LiamPb"If the plays tomkins against aus and NZ its only a matter of time before he gets his head ripped off, he will go into the game thinking he is better than everyone else playing and will get put in his place, hes a good player dont get me wrong, but he wont have a impact on the game like he has done for wigan all year'" correct plus hes a gypsy
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| Quote ="LiamPb"If the plays tomkins against aus and NZ its only a matter of time before he gets his head ripped off, he will go into the game thinking he is better than everyone else playing and will get put in his place, hes a good player dont get me wrong, but he wont have a impact on the game like he has done for wigan all year'"
And of course Myler will rip the Aussies apart...
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| Quote ="st ives"correct plus hes a gypsy'" No point trying to discuss things with Warrington fans if this is their level of intelligence in a debate.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"No point trying to discuss things with Warrington fans if this is their level of intelligence in a debate.'" what do you want to disscuss dont think much left .hes not been picked end of get over it many better players been left out ,thats life ,sport and thankyou good night sam has left the building
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"No point trying to discuss things with Warrington fans if this is their level of intelligence in a debate.'"
my dads bigger than yours
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| Sorry but you wigan boys really are a deluded bunch.Just take alook at the bigger picture.Smith has picked the players, whom he feels will win the game.Its not about who is better, Tomkins vs Myler.It is about Engalnd playing a team game,and if youre a follower of rl then what ever team Smiths picks you should get behind it.Stop being a sorry bunch of loser because one of your players have been overlooked
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| Quote ="robbierotten"Sorry but you wigan boys really are a deluded bunch.Just take alook at the bigger picture.Smith has picked the players, whom he feels will win the game.Its not about who is better, Tomkins vs Myler.It is about Engalnd playing a team game,and if youre a follower of rl then what ever team Smiths picks you should get behind it.Stop being a sorry bunch of loser because one of your players have been overlooked'" take a bow young man
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"No point trying to discuss things with Warrington fans if this is their level of intelligence in a debate.'"
Oh the irony.
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| Phuzzy. You have missed so many of my points that I think you need to read my post again. Maybe wait until you have calmed down though beforehand. My views are not wrong because you disagree with them.
I actually like Tomkins. He's a class player and in my view, may be a 1st choice half for years to come. He is though, too tempremental and maybe this is not the right game for him.
Take a chill pill, watch the game and support OUR national side.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"No point trying to discuss things with Warrington fans if this is their level of intelligence in a debate.'"
well get back on your own forum then and talk to your brothers and sisters
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| Quote ="robbierotten"Sorry but you wigan boys really are a deluded bunch.Just take alook at the bigger picture.Smith has picked the players, whom he feels will win the game.Its not about who is better, Tomkins vs Myler.It is about Engalnd playing a team game,and if youre a follower of rl then what ever team Smiths picks you should get behind it.Stop being a sorry bunch of loser because one of your players have been overlooked'"
You take a look at the bigger picture, it was in Englands best interest to play Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"You take a look at the bigger picture, it was in Englands best interest to play Tomkins.'"
Quote ="Odemwingie"I can't wait now to see if Smith plays Tomkins against Aus and NZ and then see the wire fans take the p**s if we lose, not recognising the difference between the opposition '"
You talk about difference in opposition, chum, but can we just compare the Welsh side that Tomkins tore up last week to the French side tonight? You're looking at a side of rabbits-in-the-headlights part-timers in the Welsh against a team of superleague players who've spent the majority of the last two years playing alongside one another. Different class altogether.
Englands best interest. I rate Tomkins, I really do, but he's going to sledged beyond belief if he comes up against the Aussies and I don't believe he has the chops for that. It'll be hard enough watching the Ginner from Saints lose his rag as well as our ferret-faced wunderkid. No, it shouldn't be about Tomkins vs Myler. Myler is the only scrumhalf we've got in the squad. Tomkins is an out and out standoff. His beef should be with McGuire
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"You talk about difference in opposition, chum, but can we just compare the Welsh side that Tomkins tore up last week to the French side tonight? You're looking at a side of rabbits-in-the-headlights part-timers in the Welsh against a team of superleague players who've spent the majority of the last two years playing alongside one another. Different class altogether.
Englands best interest. I rate Tomkins, I really do, but he's going to sledged beyond belief if he comes up against the Aussies and I don't believe he has the chops for that. It'll be hard enough watching the Ginner from Saints lose his rag as well as our ferret-faced wunderkid. No, it shouldn't be about Tomkins vs Myler. Myler is the only scrumhalf we've got in the squad. Tomkins is an out and out standoff. His beef should be with McGuire
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I would compare that Welsh team to the French one that Myler tore up a few months ago without the Catalan players.
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"You talk about difference in opposition, chum, but can we just compare the Welsh side that Tomkins tore up last week to the French side tonight? You're looking at a side of rabbits-in-the-headlights part-timers in the Welsh against a team of superleague players who've spent the majority of the last two years playing alongside one another. Different class altogether.
Englands best interest. I rate Tomkins, I really do, but he's going to sledged beyond belief if he comes up against the Aussies and I don't believe he has the chops for that. It'll be hard enough watching the Ginner from Saints lose his rag as well as our ferret-faced wunderkid. No, it shouldn't be about Tomkins vs Myler. Myler is the only scrumhalf we've got in the squad. Tomkins is an out and out standoff. His beef should be with McGuire
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Rubbish. Tomkins can play 6 or 7 as they don't link up, they play split.
Ok then play Myler and let Inglis and the rest walk all over him, Tomkins is a bigger threat with better defence.... the organisation claims is the biggest excuse I have ever heard.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"I would compare that Welsh team to the French one that Myler tore up a few months ago without the Catalan players.'"
And I'd agree - my point was in relation to the the fact that Wigan fans had already started comparing the French to the Aussies and Kiwis preemptively ahead of Tomkins getting a game. It's very easy to selectively compare one team against another.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Rubbish. Tomkins can play 6 or 7 as they don't link up, they play split.
Ok then play Myler and let Inglis and the rest walk all over him, Tomkins is a bigger threat with better defence.... the organisation claims is the biggest excuse I have ever heard.'"
Your demanding of Tomkins being in the side is becoming boring, the Aussies could easily walkover him as well.
On another note I thought Mylers one on one tackles were spot on tonight.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"
Ok then play Myler and let Inglis and the rest walk all over him, Tomkins is a bigger threat with better defence.... '"
Greg inglis on Myler = try, greg inglis on tomkins = try,
whats your point ?
Inglis is a monster if he wants to he can walk over any superleague player he wants....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Greg inglis on Myler = try, greg inglis on tomkins = try,
whats your point ?
Inglis is a monster if he wants to he can walk over any superleague player he wants....'"
Not Super Sam he won't...
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