I think that the finishing touches to Joe Westermans transfer were completed yesterday so you may have had to release England to help acommodate him.

I was going off his comment reported in the Guardian before the Saints match, I have no personal knowledge. Significantly no news of him signing elsewhere.

As far as I know, the 'pay off' doesn't count on either seasons salary cap, as long as it's paid at the right time, I.e after the season has finished.

With regards to Joel, the upside to him will be he can look for a two year deal now, with a pay off from us in his back pocket. If he'd had stayed for his final year with us, I think he would have retired at the end of 2016.

I think there are a couple of good signings still to come in following this exercise of clearing space on the cap. JMonas, Grix, O'Brien, England and possibly Wheeler should have made a lot of room for two quality signings surely?

Prop / loose and a right centre please, then it's squad complete.

We were fully capped at the end of the season, which included sending Grixy out to Wakefield. So
In:
Gidley
Lineham
Dodds
Hughes

Out:
Asotasi
Monaghan
Myler
Bridge
Grix
O' Brien
England

I'd say we've still roughly got a Monaghan sized space and maybe another filler as well.

All contracts such as these have termination for convenience clauses which cater for this event. Typically they are bi-lateral such that the player can "buy" themselves out of the contract as well as the club.

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I would really like to see a "blank" contract out of interest...

The post on the Hull board about Westerman is long and mainly goes off topic but it points to him going to Leeds, a week or so ago on the Leeds board the same there, Leeds have now resigned prop Baldwinson to add to Cuthbertson and Garbutt.

Prop/s being the priority for Wire is it that we seem a little too casual in our efforts, or is it we are not having much luck with recruitment in that department.

There certainly seems to have been more than the normal amount of dummy spitting & contract ripping up gone on at the Wire this season.

Maybe Joel is joining our ever growing back room staff ,i'm sure he would have some valuable input as a coach.

I think the prop situation could be just another symptom of the ludicrous under 19s experiment leaving a shortage throughout the league, & the need for the club to hopefully solve the half back/full back problems by throwing money at Gidley & Sandow for those positions.....perversely though i think the club has made a monumental howler in getting rid of Myler.

So you think a written contract for services would not have a termination clause(s)?

Not sure why you edited my post? Nor was I suggesting that there wouldn't be a termination clause. I would genuinely be interested to see a boilerplate contract of this type not my area hence my curiosity.

Oh and I suspect in a fixed term contract it would be far from straightforward

What about Theo Fages, he just handed his notice in and stopped working didnt he........?

Ive never seen that done before Ive seen people go into dispute with a club but just hand your notice and wait unpaid for Saints to pick you up... a bit odd.

was that just a bad Contract by the Dr or can you just do that hand, your notice in stop working and not have to pay the club anything back?

Think you'll probably find Fages alleged breach by the Doc. The majority of what goes on doesn't get reported and when it's resolved confidentiality clauses kick in.

You're spot on regarding the U19's Forwards especially props take longer to mature, half backs need experience the U23's will go some way to solving that problem, plus decent contracts.

I liked Myler he was just short of the leadership and kicking qualities needed at the time, I think he will do well for Catalans alongside Carney.

I didn't edit your post.

Anyone can breach a contract but then you risk action action against you. I suspect it was a messy situation and neither party could have a good case against the other or the will to pursue it.

If you look at where you quoted me you'll see you did.

All I have done is press the quote button.

Must've been a bug that added "icon_lol.giffl" whatever that means

Leeds didn't want to pay the 150k asking price but FC wouldn't drop down, Westerman agreed terms with Leeds. Warrington agreed to pay the fee and the money he asked for.

One or two on the Hull board are also convinced that he has signed for us with Leeds baulking at the asking price, if this is true Wire have a good track record of paying compensation when required, being seen as the done thing.

If Wire have got their man then he's a good signing but most fans would see a prop as priority and are actively no desperately searching for one , would your recent re-signing Baldwinson be ready for a first team slot? and was there any truth that Wire may have been interested.

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What is it with Leeds fans being fed bum information? I don't doubt that Leeds agreed terms with Westerman nor that wouldn't pay the £150k transfer fee but there are posters on that thread claiming it's a done deal.

They were also adamant that Clark was a done deal and I was called a liar for saying he won't be signing for them.

Great stuff.