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| Hang on, he dropped the ball from a kick and missed a pass from Hodgson at the end? Why isn't he being slagged off like Kevin Penny?
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| Quote ="Steeler"Hang on, he dropped the ball from a kick and missed a pass from Hodgson at the end? Why isn't he being slagged off like Kevin Penny?'"
you inadvertently answered your own question, but just incase, it's because he isn't kevin penny.
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| Is he the kid who was on loan at Crusaders?
If so he did show his pace in the game at the KC and Sharp was nowere near him
just oneof them things
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Is he the kid who was on loan at Crusaders?
If so he did show his pace in the game at the KC and Sharp was nowhere near him
just oneof them things'"
that's the one, it's all about the start etc... of which yesterday rhys had a terrible one in compared to sharp.
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| Give me a 15 metre start on a rugby pitch and i don't think Usain Bolt would catch me
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| Quote ="Necromimesis Yed"Give me a 15 metre start on a rugby pitch and i don't think Usain Bolt would catch me'"
That's nowt give me a 70 metre start, and Solamona would catch me!
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| Quote ="john7420"That's nowt give me a 70 metre start, and Solamona would catch me!'"
Crikey, that's slow, stallagtites move faster
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| He'll be at Barrow in no time...
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| Quote ="oli30045"He'll be at Barrow in no time...'"
With or without Clarkey?
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| Probably the two games in three days caught Williams out, he's only in his SL infancy, he's just been around for a while, two SL intensity games in a short turnaround must be a big ask, the younger players like Blythe & Cooper were only given one task, not both.
He's light years better than Riley anyhow.
He runs straight, he works hard from dummy half, his positional sense is infinately better.
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| Quote ="JWP"Probably the two games in three days caught Williams out, he's only in his SL infancy, he's just been around for a while, two SL intensity games in a short turnaround must be a big ask'"
Fatigue shouldn't be a factor for wingers, its the forwards and players that have their hands on the ball most who are at risk of fatigue. The Salford game was little more than a slightly intense training session, even when Williams got going he made no ground on Sharp, it looked like a half hearted, casual chase for whatever the reason rather than him going all out to at least try and close the angle down.
Ive seen James Graham not give up on a chase in worse situations even though he probably knew that their wasn't a great deal he could do, he still showed the commitment to chase all the way to the line.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Fatigue shouldn't be a factor for wingers, its the forwards and players that have their hands on the ball most who are at risk of fatigue. The Salford game was little more than a slightly intense training session, even when Williams got going he made no ground on Sharp, it looked like a half hearted, casual chase for whatever the reason rather than him going all out to at least try and close the angle down.
Ive seen James Graham not give up on a chase in worse situations even though he probably knew that their wasn't a great deal he could do, he still showed the commitment to chase all the way to the line.'"
Agreed, I'm merely offering an excuse.
Anyhow, I'm not too d he gave up, it's such a waste of effort, just for the fans benefit really, nobody was catching Sharp from the moment he pouched it. I'd rather criticise Atkins for the poor handling that put the ball in Sharp's hands than Williams not making an effort.
That Williams is winning me over, looks a solid little player to me. Has a happy knack of scoring too, I think he's score in every SL game that he's played for us so far.
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| I bet Rhys Evans might have caught him, I seem to recall a chase back he made against Catalans in similar circumstances (even though the referee had already pulled the game back for an offence).
Wiiliams is a solid player though, surprised he is getting so much stick. Then again I am also surprised at how quick everyone has written off Riley.
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| Quote ="JWP"Agreed, I'm merely offering an excuse.
Anyhow, I'm not too d he gave up, it's such a waste of effort, just for the fans benefit really, nobody was catching Sharp from the moment he pouched it. I'd rather criticise Atkins for the poor handling that put the ball in Sharp's hands than Williams not making an effort.
That Williams is winning me over, looks a solid little player to me. Has a happy knack of scoring too, I think he's score in every SL game that he's played for us so far.'"
JWP I am agreeing with you more and more as time goes on *sorry to insult you) I too think he is developing nicely. He will most definitely be our 'go to' winger in a few years.
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It's not that bad, in fact it is really good and we have the option of Atkins and Blythe in the centres and Riley etc wing
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"With or without Clarkey?
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Don't be silly, Clarke is going to the Skolars, fancies some time down south.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Wiiliams is a solid player though, surprised he is getting so much stick. Then again I am also surprised at how quick everyone has written off Riley.'"
Riley looks like he's getting the Penny treatment to me.
Smith has played a rookie centre on the wing ahead of him, a lad who he loaned out recently with less experience and when there's a gig at fullback he plonks Bridge there.
Widnes-bound.
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| Could well be but I fail to see why Williams is a better option than Riley at this stage. Makes you wonder what is going outside matchday.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Could well be but I fail to see why Williams is a better option than Riley at this stage. Makes you wonder what is going outside matchday.'"
I'm not sure. I think Williams has all the attributes to be a good 'un, he's also bigger, and Smith likes us having a big, strong backline. So if you replace the pace, but add strength and size, you're up.
Riley when I've seen him this year has been poor, especially defensively which was what always got him raps over Penny, well recently I've seen plenty of poor reads from him, so maybe Smith thinks he's just not switched on.
For me, I'd keep Williams in the side, for now at least. His record wherever he has been, ie, us, Wales & Crusaders is fantastic, I think he deserves his chance.
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| I think he's ordinary to be honest. I would imagine we ain't paying him much. So that's fair enough.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I think he's ordinary to be honest. I would imagine we ain't paying him much. So that's fair enough.'"
What would be the order on Wingers after King leaves?
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| Just seen that Sharp try on BNL, I have to admit I was surprised at how slow and labored Williams was chasing back.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Just seen that Sharp try on BNL, I have to admit I was surprised at how slow and labored Williams was chasing back.'"
Maybe he found the quick turnaround from Good Friday a bit too much? He certainly looked rapid enough against Salford. To be honest, I don't think he recovered his confidence after making a mess of taking in that high ball midway through the first half. Still think he's a very decent prospect though.
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| harrisons chase was much better and more of a lost cause.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"What would be the order on Wingers after King leaves?'"
who knows??
We cant seriously expect to have Joel Monaghan and Matt King on the wings and expect to be covered in Quality elsewhere on the park.
they are both top draw players and will be paid accordingly.
I dont know of another team in the world that has that kind of quality and salary cap space playing on the wings....
I didnt notice Chris Riley do anything to deserve being dropped maybe Smithy is just keeping him on his toes.
after all Williams was promoted to the full time squad, so youve got to play them sometime, otherwise you look a dick for promoting them.
I dont see a problem with Monas and Riley on the wings
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