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| I'll chuck my two pence worth in about Benny.
Should have gone - he had more than enough time to avoid the contact and it was a silly thing to do.
I suspect C-D charge in match review and should get Easter off.
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| Tremendous display. Great to see the players back and fighting for the result. Hopefully we can really push on from here.
Philbin, Hill, Patton all outstanding.
Westwood should have walked, but he didn't.... That really set the tempo for the rest of the game. We never took a backwards step and dominated Leeds in the tackle.
More of the same next week please.
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| My opinion on last night.....
Our 1st win = great stuff
The fact that it was Leeds and they were 2nd in the table = great stuff
The act of sheer stupidity from Westwood in the 1st minute of the match that could have lost us the game = ridiculous, deserves whatever ban he gets, penalty machine
Lineham, T King, Patten, Philbin, G King = very good (Patten stand out player, no place for Brown unless Patten/Gidley gets a knock)
Ratchford, Atkins, Russell, Gidley, Hill, Westerman = good, but need to improve ball control, passing accuracy, daft mistakes & penalties (Hill always seems to give away a couple a game)
Clark, Hughes = nothing too spectacular on the night, Clark took a couple of knocks, I don't think Hughes does spectacular
Dwyer, Evans = would rather see Savelio & Julien on the bench, would rather not see Evans at all
All in all, not a result I was expecting, we got the rub of the green with a couple of decisions (amazed that Westwood only got 10 in the bin, even though a nutcase stood near me spent the whole of the 1st half trying to convince anyone that would listen that it was a legitimate challenge and shouldn't have even been a penalty!), and if we keep playing like that we will win more than we lose.
We do need to cut out the silly penalties and look more dangerous with ball in hand in front of the oppositions line, but this is a massive step forward from where we have been in the past few weeks.....Well done Wire!
(remember kids, these are opinions only............. )
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| Am I the only oneyjsy thinks Westwood's hit in minute 1 help win us the game,
He took out probably Leeds biggest threat, creative and goalkicker in one hit.
It's unfortunate he couldn't have finished Matty Smith otherwise we'd have won a GF by now.
Pies were more effective that day on Ratchford.
Tactical biff wins games. Naughty but effective. It's RL answer to getting a touch in the football box and taking a dive.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Am I the only oneyjsy thinks Westwood's hit in minute 1 help win us the game,
He took out probably Leeds biggest threat, creative and goalkicker in one hit.
It's unfortunate he couldn't have finished Matty Smith otherwise we'd have won a GF by now.
Pies were more effective that day on Ratchford.
Tactical biff wins games. Naughty but effective. It's RL answer to getting a touch in the football box and taking a dive.'"
I very much doubt it was a bit of tactical biff, probably brain fart, so no I don't agree with you on that score. But yes, Singleton was a crucial player to lose as he is a very creative player and Golding is no replacement goal kicker. It also meant they were one short on the bench - and both sides were looking decidedly tired in the last 20 minutes.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"I very much doubt it was a bit of tactical biff, probably brain fart, so no I don't agree with you on that score. But yes, Singleton was a crucial player to lose as he is a very creative player and Golding is no replacement goal kicker. It also meant they were one short on the bench - and both sides were looking decidedly tired in the last 20 minutes.'"
Well I said the same thing to Johnnie Lowe last night and he completely agreed with me, he said Murphy would have had Nicko or himself do exactly he same.
Brain fart I think not.
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| Sorry, you can't condone Benny's hit. It's the thin end of the wedge if we allow that, the games moved on from that being acceptable (if it ever was). That wasn't 'biff' it was a late shoulder that could have caused serious harm.
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| Having looked at the late hit. I can see a ban forthcoming. If anything due to ben's priors.
Know I said I mentioned evans' two ball touches in 20 minutes last night, but if he was dropped due to poor form but retained as back up or cover, why couldn't Julien play instead, he seems to be doing really well in reserves and deserves the opportunity.
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| Bans for Sims & Westwood on there way.
Golding is our 1st choice kicker.
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| Quote ="Bang"Bans for Sims & Westwood on there way.
Golding is our 1st choice kicker.'"
Westwood yes sims no if you want a ban for that go take up tiddlywinks or curling !!
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| Quote ="ninearches"I must say Dezzie ,i have only seen the Westwood incident as it happened in the stadium ,i haven't got sky sports to be able to review it.'"
Imo it was a deliberate strike to the head !! On the replays you. An awe a minute adjustment to ensure he cleans him out. I'm all for physical tough hard hitting rugby however that challenge doesn't fall into that category. Wether he was told to do it or was just a very poor attempt at a big hit I'm not sure but I'm in agreement that it certainly affected the game in our favour.
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| What i've heard this morning is that the Westwood incident was bad ,but not having sky i doubt if i will ever see it unless it is featured on superleague show.I just saw it once in real time at the match. What did Sims do,i didn't even see the ref put him on report ?
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| There's nothing tactical about "biff" when it's illegal challenges that can get you banned.
Morley (in his Warrington years) and Peacock could enforce themselves on opponents without doing illegal challenges.
The danger for Westwood is he is going to become like Nikau was at Warrington. A once great player who is frustrated at not being the force of old and starts taking liberties.
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| Wigan win gf over and over with bending the rules.
The door is locked good if you remove the key.
Bennies hit was a fine line between legal and not.
Either way we needed the win and 10 mins was a bargain price for it.
We have the win and Bennie a week off. Everyone is a winner...except leeds.
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| Quote ="ninearches"What i've heard this morning is that the Westwood incident was bad ,but not having sky i doubt if i will ever see it unless it is featured on superleague show.I just saw it once in real time at the match. What did Sims do,i didn't even see the ref put him on report ?'"
No need for sky full game is on a popular video sharing sit search warrington Leeds and change filters to videos this week
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Am I the only oneyjsy thinks Westwood's hit in minute 1 help win us the game,
He took out probably Leeds biggest threat, creative and goalkicker in one hit.
It's unfortunate he couldn't have finished Matty Smith otherwise we'd have won a GF by now.
Pies were more effective that day on Ratchford.
Tactical biff wins games. Naughty but effective. It's RL answer to getting a touch in the football box and taking a dive.'"
no i dis agree had this been at leeds westwood would av gone..homer child always favours the home team he`s well known for it..just look at atkins 2nd try..if we get him at widnes we r knackered
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| We wasn't at Leeds, so your point isn't valid pal, but
I buy your theory though.
Your theory would make it difficult for a Ref to hold nerve and send someone off when at home, in a CC or GF, whereas if it was an away team, he would find it easy to send him off.
So by your own theory, you must except it is an advantage when not away from home.
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| Can't condone the Westwood "tackle", was at best stupidity, which could have cost us the match.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wigan win gf over and over with bending the rules.
The door is locked good if you remove the key.
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Wigan win Grand Finals over and over with good coaching and a youth system that produces lots of top players.
But you never know, maybe Wigan will be trying to sign Westwood from us if they think his approach could help give them a marginal edge in the Grand Final.
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It certainly had a coach's influence.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"There's nothing tactical about "biff" when it's illegal challenges that can get you banned.
Morley (in his Warrington years) and Peacock could enforce themselves on opponents without doing illegal challenges.
The danger for Westwood is he is going to become like Nikau was at Warrington. A once great player who is frustrated at not being the force of old and starts taking liberties.'"
Yet Westwood has been one of our best for the past 2 weeks, and a key reason we've improved IMO.
Seen the tackle on TV now: terrible. Think he can expect 3-4 matches. I feel no sympathy for Leeds though as they similarly benefited last week from Ferres' sickening tackle (which he was lucky to escape with 6 from I thought).
My other main reflection: Smith was derived on here by some a few weeks back for saying luck was against us and contributing to our poor form (note contributing, not the sole cause like the Smith out obsessives might have us believe). However, you can see just what he meant last night. We could (and should) have played 79 minutes, not 10, with 12 men, and though we were much better it's hard to see how we'd have overcome that. The margins are small, and single decisions can swing games. It's not the only thing, but it can play a part, and it was nice to get the rub of the green last night; it might just have saved our season!
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"Quote ="ninearches"What i've heard this morning is that the Westwood incident was bad ,but not having sky i doubt if i will ever see it unless it is featured on superleague show.I just saw it once in real time at the match. What did Sims do,i didn't even see the ref put him on report ?'"
No need for sky full game is on a popular video sharing sit search warrington Leeds and change filters to videos this week'"
Seen it now Dezzie, not very pretty & completely unnecessary. A shame when he was one of our better forwards for the rest of the match.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"no i dis agree had this been at leeds westwood would av gone..homer child always favours the home team he`s well known for it..just look at atkins 2nd try..if we get him at widnes we r knackered'"
A very honest opinion and if these 2 incidents had been treated correctly would have seen us win
IMO Wolves were the best side over the game
It will be interesting to see the outcome of Westwoods challenge after the recent lengthy suspensions handed out
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| Whether you condone the "Tackle" or not, RD is right. That one hit set the tempo for the rest of the game. Though they scored pretty much straight afterwards, every Wire player stepped up in aggression and it showed.
It clearly was tactical as well because in that first half instead of seeing charge-downs we saw forwards charging at the kicker and sitting them on their backside. Every leeds player who ended up with the ball on the last tackle was feared to death. And if you think a coach won't be including "The first bloke kicking the ball on the 5th, F****** give it him and make sure he doesn't want to get it again." into his pre-match speech then you're a fool.
Yeah he'll probably get a ban but that sort of hit is exactly the type of aggression our forwards have been lacking for a good while. I'm not saying we should go round hitting men off the ball and getting a player banned every week but we should be getting hold of the playmakers and burying them into the grass. We're a big pack, It's time we started enforcing it. We've been saying for so long now that as a team we're 'too nice'. The teams that win aren't nice in the forwards. They're nasty and aggressive and allow the backs to play off of that. That one tackle could have just kick started our season.
It's Rugby league. A hard game that at the minute is becoming quite diluted and soft by outraged 'Will somebody please think of the children' types.
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