|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 39722 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| did he even play in the second half? i can't recall seeing him on the pitch?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 11464 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Indeed. Clearly still all his fault though.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8214 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2014 | Nov 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"did he even play in the second half? i can't recall seeing him on the pitch?'"
Funny you should say that as I don't recall him being on?!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 445 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="the flying biscuit"On the other Hand Fans Favourite David solomona Was a man mountain in Attack and Defence, almost a perfect 90 minutes from the big fella..........
'"
Totally shocking display from Solomona, unfortunately he seem's immune to criticism.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 5587 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2024 | Sep 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Clarke isn't good enough now, Don't think anybody is making him a scapegoat or blaming him for the defeat, but surely in defeat you tend to look at your weakness's and clarke is a weaker link in our chain. As for solomona, i would've paid the entrance fee just to see him play, but now i'm dreading him coming on. His fitness has dropped alarmingly which i'm suprised has been allowed to happen.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3486 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2022 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mark_m"I am perplexed at Clarke being picked out. Even more perplexed at Solomona being hailed as a 'standout performer'.'"
Exactly....Solomona and Louis Anderson were both god awful yesterday....And Joel Monaghan also had his worse game for us since he signed....
I didn't think Clarke did a lot wrong and i'm not a big fan of his but he certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9681 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Anderson stunk the place out today....as did solomona.
Jon Clarke was his usual self...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 67 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2014 | Mar 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Jon Clarke is solid pro that does what is asked of him in defence (never usually misses many tackles), gives very few penalties away (in comparison to Higham). His delivery from acting half or scrum half is usually very good.
People scapegoat the man because they don't usually want to pick on our so called stars. Yes I'm annoyed at our loss today but if we're honest not one of the players was up to much, not faulting the effort but the ability. This easter weekend does not do the players or fans any good.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2344 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2014 | Sep 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Im not one to jump to his defence but they literally all had a stinker yesterday.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2344 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2014 | Sep 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mark_m"I am perplexed at Clarke being picked out. Even more perplexed at Solomona being hailed as a 'standout performer'.'"
Solomona was dreadful yesterday and there was a general 'attitude' issue as far as i'm concerned. We walked through Salford on friday so its not as though we can blame fatigue etc either. Its simple really, if your attitude is wrong, you'll drop balls, fall off tackles etc.
Only time ive left the ground (this season) feeling genuinly dissapointed yesterday.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1926 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Lets be honest here Clarkey would have a job getting in a championship side on current form so it's quite puzzling why TS picks him and imo whoever puts Clarkey ahead of Higham must be deluded.Not saying for one min that Higham is spectacular but least he makes the occasional break and runs with the ball but having said that i totally agree that it's quite unfair that he should be made the scapegoat everytime the team loses,when he plays that is.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2413 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'm no clarke fan by any means, but to single him out yesterday is out of order. He played in the same manner he always does, which is just workmanlike. He isn't a player i expect to turn a game for us. The ones that i do (monas and briers) both had very quiet games hence we offered little in attack.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 20628 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| He's rubbish but scapegoat is a bit excessive.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8019 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Solomona (this season) is rapidly turning into Danny Lima (remember him).
Solomona's one (maybe two) devastating off loading per game, is being lost, against his (sometime) muppetry, with too many dropped balls/loose carries.
Compare this, a few seasons back, with Danny Lima (another crowd favourite). Comes off the bench, and skittles 4 opposition defenders in one ball carry, then "goes for a blow" with his hands on his knees, catching his breath. Next time he takes the ball up/tackles, there's a penalty.
At the moment (as with Lima in the past), Sol's giving more to the oppostion, rather than to ourselves.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1925 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Solomona (this season) is rapidly turning into Danny Lima (remember him).
Solomona's one (maybe two) devastating off loading per game, is being lost, against his (sometime) muppetry, with too many dropped balls/loose carries.
Compare this, a few seasons back, with Danny Lima (another crowd favourite). Comes off the bench, and skittles 4 opposition defenders in one ball carry, then "goes for a blow" with his hands on his knees, catching his breath. Next time he takes the ball up/tackles, there's a penalty.
At the moment (as with Lima in the past), Sol's giving more to the oppostion, rather than to ourselves.'"
You wouldn't have seen Tony Tatupu do that. .....and you wouldn't have seen him tackle or run either.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8019 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="matt king's cat"You wouldn't have seen Tony Tatupu do that. .....and you wouldn't have seen him tackle or run either.'"
Took bone-idleness to a new level.
By the size of him, he should have been a world beater. I wouldn't have him down as an eggbeater.
One good game in a Wire shirt (Wigan H). Damn you John Monie
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1925 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| He was supposed to be the best thing to come out of New Zealand since lamb chops. By the end of his one (thank God) season with us he just strolled around the pitch coming in as third man in the tackle and taking it in once in every three or four sets. Has to go down as the worst import in the P&B ever.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8019 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| That's coming up against some stiff opposition, MKC
Paul Younane
Craig Teitzel
Manure Thompson
The Jackson bros
off the top of my head
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2233 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2013 | Oct 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I think Lefty G's point here is getting missed somewhat. It's not 'why single out Clarke' as much as it is 'why single ANYONE out but if we are, why it is ALWAYS Clarke'. I couldn't agree more with that. I suspect Clarke gets slammed because of the things he doesn't do - it's not his fault he isn't James Roby. The only person who could be criticised for that is James Roby. And he is nearly always James Roby - except on weekends when he dresses like a woman and calls himself Susan.*
*not really. AFAIK anyway...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8019 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Clarke is ALWAYS the one, who certain people will go for. He's the easy target. It's like the fat kid in the playground for the bully.
When the thread started, I was wondering why there was Clarke bashing for this defeat, then EUREKA. IT'S CLARKE, HE'S AN EASY TARGET, AND SAVES THE "FANS" ACTUALLY LOOKING WHO DIDN'T PERFORM.
Quite simple, really.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 19907 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Oct 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"I think Lefty G's point here is getting missed somewhat. It's not 'why single out Clarke' as much as it is 'why single ANYONE out but if we are, why it is ALWAYS Clarke'. I couldn't agree more with that. I suspect Clarke gets slammed because of the things he doesn't do - it's not his fault he isn't James Roby. The only person who could be criticised for that is James Roby. And he is nearly always James Roby - except on weekends when he dresses like a woman and calls himself Susan.*
*not really. AFAIK anyway...'"
Suzanne, actually.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 14188 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Clarke is ALWAYS the one, who certain people will go for. He's the easy target. It's like the fat kid in the playground for the bully.
When the thread started, I was wondering why there was Clarke bashing for this defeat, then EUREKA. IT'S CLARKE, HE'S AN EASY TARGET, AND SAVES THE "FANS" ACTUALLY LOOKING WHO DIDN'T PERFORM.
Quite simple, really.'"
Why do you think people focus on him? Is there not a grain of truth in the fact that he is not a top 4 SL player and it shows? One of Cullen's bizarre, crazy 4 year signings. Actually will he be the last of the PC signings unextended by Smith? (i.e we will soon have a squad of players whose contract was agreed by Smith?)
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5678 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| On current form and fitness (with regards to Solomona) I wouldn't bother negotiating either of them contracts for next year. Ratchford and Puletua to replace them please Mr Smith.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5643 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2020 | Jun 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Wires71"Why do you think people focus on him? Is there not a grain of truth in the fact that he is not a top 4 SL player and it shows? One of Cullen's bizarre, crazy 4 year signings. Actually will he be the last of the PC signings unextended by Smith? (i.e we will soon have a squad of players whose contract was agreed by Smith?)'"
I could name a load of Huddersfield players who wouldnt get near a wigan, saints, wires shirt, and are never ever going to be called world class but they sit at the top of the league because they have players that "do a job."
Interesting that Joey Johns talking about Gareth Widdop last week said "He doesn't over complicate his game he does the simple stuff and lets the star names do their stuff".
I often think Clarke is asked to do exactly that "don't overcomplicate things ". Which is exactly what we didnt do when he wasn't on and we looked bleedin ridiculous.
Has anyone pointed out any errors he came up with or are we just going to go with the "he ain't no James Roby" line.??
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 14188 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I could name a poop load of Huddersfield players who wouldnt get near a wigan, saints, wires shirt, and are never ever going to be called world class but they sit at the top of the league because they have players that "do a job."
Interesting that Joey Johns talking about Gareth Widdop last week said "He doesn't over complicate his game he does the simple stuff and lets the star names do their stuff".
I often think Clarke is asked to do exactly that "don't overcomplicate things ". Which is exactly what we didnt do when he wasn't on and we looked bleedin ridiculous.
Has anyone pointed out any errors he came up with or are we just going to go with the "he ain't no James Roby" line.??'"
I just think the job Clarke used to do for us (if indeed he did do that) has become redundant as we have become serious title contenders and moved on a level in class.
Anyway it's simple, if he was truly valued by Smith, as Johns speaks of Widdop, he would have been extended by now, but he hasn't been and is unlikely to be. We can read into that what we wish.
|
|
|
|
|