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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"You forgot Kallum Watkins????'"
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| I see your 'edgy' social media team is on the wind up again today over Gelling. Not sure the post is a great idea though, shades of the Suarez t-shirts at Liverpool about it. No class.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see your 'edgy' social media team is on the wind up again today over Gelling. Not sure the post is a great idea though, shades of the Suarez t-shirts at Liverpool about it. No class.'"
What's up with you mouth? What are you complaining about?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see your 'edgy' social media team is on the wind up again today over Gelling. Not sure the post is a great idea though, shades of the Suarez t-shirts at Liverpool about it. No class.'"
Are you crying over the fact they've used him today as part of the countdown? as they have done with widdop,with austin, charnley, and king.
How is that 'edgy' ?
how is that 'on the wind up' ?
how is that 'no class' ?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see your 'edgy' social media team is on the wind up again today over Gelling. Not sure the post is a great idea though, shades of the Suarez t-shirts at Liverpool about it. No class.'"
I'm sure that Karl Fitzpatrick will have read your post, and taken the appropriate action against the social media team.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Are you crying over the fact they've used him today as part of the countdown? as they have done with widdop,with austin, charnley, and king.
How is that 'edgy' ?
how is that 'on the wind up' ?
how is that 'no class' ?'"
I know Sad man likes a wind up, but hard to disagree that using Gelling to promote the club at the moment is a little boneheaded.
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| Gelling ....named in the squad against HKR.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I know Sad man likes a wind up, but hard to disagree that using Gelling to promote the club at the moment is a little boneheaded.'"
He's only there as his shirt number was the next day of the countdown, they have been doing it all week
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I know Sad man likes a wind up, but hard to disagree that using Gelling to promote the club at the moment is a little boneheaded.'"
He’s in the squad to play at the weekend, available for selection and is still contracted to the club.
Trial pending and he’s not been found guilty, until then, what’s the big deal with us using our current number three as part of the countdown to our game?
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| Quote ="DAG"He’s in the squad to play at the weekend, available for selection and is still contracted to the club.
Trial pending and he’s not been found guilty, until then, what’s the big deal with us using our current number three as part of the countdown to our game?'"
If you can't immediately see the answer to that question then I'm not sure there's much I can say that would help you.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"If you can't immediately see the answer to that question then I'm not sure there's much I can say that would help you.'"
Funny how people who seem to want to take some sort of moral ground, choose to ignore the basic premise of British justice, which is innocent until proven guilty?
If Gelling is found guilty, then I'm sure the club will take appropriate action. Until then, they should follow that basic rule of our law, which they seem to be doing.
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| Given the severity of the charges, it would be better for the club to keep Gelling on a lower profile.
Using him in promotional material with these charges hanging over him is a deliberate choice and it looks provocative. The promotional material is about building the club's brand. A certain proportion of the target audience who sees him being used the promotional material will have a negative reaction so it is counter productive. There are plenty of other players who could have been used in the material that wouldn't have the negative associations and so would be safer at this point to promote our brand.
I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty so it is fair to honour his contract, allow him to participate in training and be eligible for selection in games, but discretion should be used when it comes to using him to promote the club.
The same principles of British justice apply to Prince Andrew who has also not been found guilty of any crime. However, he has been discreetly removed from making public appearances so he is not promoting the Royal Family or the UK.
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| It's almost as if the club know a bit more about the case/proposed charges and have no issue with Gelling's selection and use of him in promotional work.
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| Not seen the Gelling promotional material, but if it's in line with the recent 'norm' from our Warrington promotional team - which goes under the guise of 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' - then I'm glad I haven't seen it.
It's in the main been juvenile, pathetic and quite honestly embarrassingly amateurish (even if at times it has made me giggle).
I'm sure it appeals to some, but clearly I'm not their target audience.
Now what's happening tomorrow?
Oh yes it's a rugby match
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| Quote ="fez1"Not seen the Gelling promotional material, but if it's in line with the recent 'norm' from our Warrington promotional team - which goes under the guise of 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' - then I'm glad I haven't seen it.'"
It's literally a picture of the side/back of Gelling during a game showing the number 3 on his shirt saying 3 days left that's it. They've done it for the past 10 days or so with every player according to the number on their shirt with the amount of days left before we play. So the high and mighty crying saying we shouldn't use it for promotion is pathetically bizzarre and people are making an issue just to simply complain about us like some fans like to do.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"It's almost as if the club know a bit more about the case/proposed charges and have no issue with Gelling's selection and use of him in promotional work.'"
I agree. There’s only so much can legally be said
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| Quote ="Or thane"It's literally a picture of the side/back of Gelling during a game showing the number 3 on his shirt saying 3 days left that's it. They've done it for the past 10 days or so with every player according to the number on their shirt with the amount of days left before we play. So the high and mighty crying saying we shouldn't use it for promotion is pathetically bizzarre and people are making an issue just to simply complain about us like some fans like to do.'"
Don't see anything wrong with that. Not really singling him out.
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| Be interesting to see how it pans out in court. He definitely seemed very ‘busy’ out there against HKR and wanted to make an impact on the game.
His performance was so hot & cold today: Stepping out the line they score, gets sin binned, scoring one and followed by two errors, then assist for Charnley and setting up a long range try... it’s too inconsistent, against a top 4 team he’ll get caught out.
With Inglis coming over next year and this court case hanging over his head, he really has to step things up on the field.
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| Quote ="Mighty_Wires88"Be interesting to see how it pans out in court. He definitely seemed very ‘busy’ out there against HKR and wanted to make an impact on the game.
His performance was so hot & cold today: Stepping out the line they score, gets sin binned, scoring one and followed by two errors, then assist for Charnley and setting up a long range try... it’s too inconsistent, against a top 4 team he’ll get caught out.
With Inglis coming over next year and this court case hanging over his head, he really has to step things up on the field.'"
Yeah he's been the same in every game i've seen for us so far, where as Toby king in the past 2 yrars has massive upped his game and learning off one of the best centres ever can only enhance him even further. If Gelling does stay i'd say he's the one who will be fighting for his place.
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| Quote ="Or thane"It's literally a picture of the side/back of Gelling during a game showing the number 3 on his shirt saying 3 days left that's it. They've done it for the past 10 days or so with every player according to the number on their shirt with the amount of days left before we play. So the high and mighty crying saying we shouldn't use it for promotion is pathetically bizzarre and people are making an issue just to simply complain about us like some fans like to do.'"
Well said.
As Thane says we are literally talking about the picture of the back of a guys shirt because he has the squad number 3.
Sal, disappointed in your post a bit, I like your stuff generally, but think you are way off here. Have you seen the picture?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Well said.
Have you seen the picture?'"
If its the picture of his missus with two black eyes which was doing the rounds on social media, that was taken after she was involved in a car crash a while back.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"
Sal, disappointed in your post a bit, I like your stuff generally, but think you are way off here. Have you seen the picture?'"
I appreciate that it might not seem like a big deal just putting a picture of Gelling up to highlight the shirt number countdown thing, but when it comes to promotion or branding, it's less about being right or wrong in a moral argument and more about what kind of response it gets from the audience you're trying to reach.
All the interactions and mentions from that twitter post were around Gelling and his court case. Not about the Warrington v Hull KR game. So it was counterproductive - the goal with promotional work is to generate excitement and focus on the game. People are talking about something negative about the club when they should be talking about something positive, which hurts the brand.
Now you might say, well its all being stirred up by fans of other clubs who want to have a pop at the club over something minor. Sure - but we knew that was going to happen - the effect is to distract from the message you want to create with the promotion.
It's like if we were putting a player up to do a media interview with the goal of promoting a derby game, and he wore a cap that said Free Palestine or Extinction Rebellion or something. I have no problem with those causes but wouldn't want a player wearing that cap when the goal was to promote a game, because all the interactions and discussion you'd get would be political arguments, and nobody would be talking about the game!
I would have just skipped over the day 3 in the shirt countdown and picked it up with day 2.
But also I should note that although I've had a moan about some of the club's social media activity in terms of individual posts, I do think they are generally good, they produce plenty of material, it looks far more professionally produced these days than it used to, their video content is excellent and fans who follow the club on social media get a view inside the club that we never used to get before. I do think they are a good team.
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| I wonder how many people refused to watch last night's game on the basis of the club using Gelling's image as part of the pre match publicity?
It's purely a guess, but I reckon it's probably zero, so it makes all the bedwetting over it, on social media and by the few on here, pretty irrelevent.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I wonder how many people refused to watch last night's game on the basis of the club using Gelling's image as part of the pre match publicity?
I think you are vastly underestimating the scale of the problem. The stadium was virtually empty.
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