Have you not heeded the warning.

Hope you enjoy your ban.

For real. Whearas you appear to fall neatly into the "or what" category.



Quite right. No-one is saying otherwise.



Yes and no. You see, in the real world - not some fantasy world you seem to live in - things aren't always black and white, there are grey areas. So, mostly the answer is No, of course not, most issues should be discussed on here. Such as what is wrong with the left edge defence. But sometimes, it's best to contact the club - especially when a club employee has suggested that very route. By all means, discuss the website on here and let everyone know what comes of your contact with the club.

But doing nothing other than ranting on and on about something isn't a) acheiving anything or b) interesting.



Funny isn't it, that whenever anyone disagrees with you you moan about free speech, yet when I and others post our opinions you come back with comments like that.

Test - Is the resultant outcome the direct opposite of that intended with comic effect? Answer - Nope.

Ed Byrn summed it up nicely when he was ribbing the "Isnt it ironic" song referring to a traffic jam which a town council planner was stuck in which caused the town planner to miss the meeting which was to discuss the easement of traffic congestion.

Didn't Byrn also say that the '10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife' thing ISN'T ironic but that if you took hours to find a knife only to discover that a spoon would have done in the 1st place it would be?

Seb, with respect again, we have already spoken privately about certain issues with regards to the manner in which you post.

You decided not to reply/comment on my feedback, which I presume means that you will continue to post in the same manner.

Im not going to get 'involved' with you as I know you are just wanting to provoke a reaction.

As promised I will post within the rules and AUP.

I see nothing has changed here then.

Why, where've you bin ? Off Partying like it's 1999 ?

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The club is important to many thousands of people (I'm sure it's very important to use here, otherwise why on earth would we all spend so much time discussing them here) so I don't think that's a very good argument.

And this is sort of my point. By a club official responding to certain issues here, why wouldn't people continue to raise issues here, knowing that they are probably getting read by the club? The OP (I can't keep up with his name changes) has it in his head that Greg knows his issues, so why does he need to raise it with the club, and actually, he has a good point with that one.

This is a multi-million pound business, and the club should always be very careful about how they are perceived by it's customers/fans.

At times we all come on here to have a moan about things like the shop, website, ticketing, prices etc. and I do agree that if people feel so strongly about things, they should raise them directly with the club. I have done so in the past when I have had absolutely useless service from them.

Indeed he did

Spoons and traffic pending I'm off to see Mr Byrn at the Lowry soon, looking forward to it.

A wonderful case of irony is the attempted assination of Ronald Reagan. The assassin, John Hinkley, missed Reagan with all his shots but one bullet bounced off the bullet-proof window of the presidential car and hit Reagan in the chest.

i'm not a fan of mr byrne, i was never all that keen on him when he used to be on them late night stand up shows in the mid 90's, he was always just a bit too desperate for me. Then i thought he sold out when he cut his trademark hair, he's tolerable on mock the week though

BUT. for me he'll forever be tainted for taking part in the god awful 'DAVINA' sit com project.

i can still smell that from this year.

LOL luckily for me I missed the DAVINA thing. He's not my favourite but passable and at £13 a ticket you cant go far wrong.

Right, now we've established just what irony really is, can we establish what it is that we often mistakenly describe on here as irony. For example, if a Wigan fan said he'd heard we were over the salary cap and if so it's not fair, he might get the response "that's ironic coming from a Wigan fan". When clearly, it's actually not. But what is it?

Predictable?

just to help this along


i'd say that sounds more like sarcasm the bit i've highlighted.

Me too..

FACT 1: Being the owner of a website myself I know how difficult they are to maintain. They generate very little income in comparison to the amount of time and effort spent updating them and therefore can attract little investment - unless you are the BBC or SKy e.t.c when you can charge your licence payers/subscribers for your services.

FACT 2: Why would the club invest time and effort interviewing their own players when there are numerous other media already fulfilling that role. Surley the club's efforts should focus on generating revenue and playing rugby. I mean I have even been accused on here of asking questions that the club have written for me!!



FACT 3: Most web users expect everything for free - and like most things in life you get what you pay for.

FACT4: How on earth do you expect anyone from the club to take your comments seriously when yoru write under the name you have chosen!!

Good point, well made.

Thats totally irrelevant Gary and you know it. For all you know and care I could be Stephen Hawkins avin a laff



FACT5: How on gods planet can you expect anyone to take you seriously as an impartial journalist when we all know you have to lick the clubs booty just to get access for the interviews!!



Maybe that answers your original thread question

1 - Quite relevant if you ask me. You're always asking for heads to roll if you think they are breaking the AUP, fairly hypocritical that.

2 - I'd like to see you arrange any kind of player interview, just to show it's not as easy as you seem to think it is. Gary puts a lot of hard work into journalism and his business, only for people like you to slag him off at every available opportunity. As I say, if you think you can do a better job, put your money where your mouth is and try it

One of the mods has the word in his user name. I cant see what is wrong with penis, I could think of a lot worse.

Also I dont doubt garys workrate or his skill, in fact I quite enjoy his interviews and watch them all (apart from broomheads). However, the interviews are fairly safe and the real tough questions are not asked for obvious reasons ie,Gary is probably briefed by Greg about what he can and cant ask and if he deviates from this will probably never be allowed back into the hj. Its the same with all sports and sport journalism, did anyone see that recent pre match interview with David Moyes?

FACT 1: Apply for a job in your pen name and see how far you get.
You also need an apostrophe between the r's to ensure you remain attached to your manhood!



FACT 2: I am not a boot licker - I just try and show a little respect when dealing with fellow human beings unlike some of the posters on here!

FACT 1: They wouldn't get to be a moderator on my site with a name like that and I have absolutely no say on what goes on on here!

FACT2: Greg does not brief me and I don't duck any difficult issues - with the pre season interview with Jimmy the first question I asked him was what was it like being the hot favourite for the sake. I am sure he would rather I did'nt ask such questions - but it was relevant and factual as the bookies had him as favourite until Brian Noble's exploits with Wigan.

An aquired taste that stuff...

Re Fact1 - As if I would ever do that



Re Fact2 - I actually said Booty Licker not boot licker. And also your interviews are too safe ie, boring and thats why people probably choose not to watch them.

If you ask for feedback Gary at least be man enough to accept it and hopefully act upon it. There is no malice at all in my reply, like I say I enjoy your interviews and respect your work.