Well we still have 90%ish a TS team....tbh I think it's the first time it's been mentioned on here. I think many of us have forgotten that, I include myself.
So perhaps your last point is valid.

Good God. I was anti Price but this is ridiculous after 5 games. What are you all expecting at this stage?

If we manage to win on Friday (not impossible) then we’ll be 3/3 with a sound looking defensive structure and potential to improve in attack. If we were offered this at round 6 last season we’d be quite happy. I’m normally a bit of a negative-minded person but for some reason I feel things are turning a corner and once the attack clicks we’ll be a tough team to crack. I don’t think we’ll be particularly entertaining but we’ll be scoring more than we let in and that SHOULD win games, providing we can cut out the stupid indiscipline. I do think we should try a different leader on the pitch though. I wonder if handing Roberts the role would boost him mentally. He’s stated he wants control of the attack from 7.

Defence has improved under the new regime, good start for the new coaches.

The problem is that the penalty machines are still working overtime, not such a good start for the new coaches.

There is a complete lack of attacking ambition regardless of the HB combination, not such a good start for the new coaches.

Exactly. It's easier on everybody if we just write this season off. We will probably win as many as we lose and end up mid table. But then Price will be able to recruit for 2019 following another clearout.

Talking about the Hull game, who would have decided to go from the borefest to throwing the ball about after Patton went off? Price or the players ? Whoever it was needs to try it for the full 80 minutes.

Imagine backing Kevin Brown to the hilt and then writing off Steve Price and Tyrone Roberts after 5 games.

Anyone who thought we would seriously challenge for honours this year was optimistic beyond even my rose coloured view. Early days in a new era, defence has improved, hopefully attack will as well I’m prepared to wait and see. It’s likely to be a bumpy ride for the foreseeable future.

Reeled in.

I don't think many did that. I for one said we have no excuse not to be out of the top 3 after the money invested.
There is a difference.
Currently I'm rather disappointed however there is plenty room for improvement so I'm not despondent.

To be in the top 3 we would need to getting better results than 1 of the following

Leeds, Saints, Wigan.

Not going to happen.

I Like his soundbites, Maybe I'm being a sucker but it just sounds like he knows whats going wrong and he's trying hard to get them fixed.
Towards the end of his reign you genuinely felt Tony Smith didn't have a clue and the Game of Rugby league had simply passed him by.

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that said he will be under some pressure should we lose.....

Think we need a reality check regarding some of these calls for Price's position to be under threat.

2 simple points,

1. No away game is a gimme in SL. It might not sound good but we could lose all 11 away games and not one would be a 'shock'.

2. Of our 3 home games, the 2 defeats have come against the 2 sides who are more likely than any others to be contesting the Grand Final.

With those 2 points in mind I fail to see how anybody can really question our start or question Price's immediate future.

Yes, performances are pretty uninspiring but I think we all knew it wasn't going to be a quick fix after the shocking state we were in at the end of last season.

Price needs at least 1 full season, some proper recruitment and the opening 6 or 7 games of next season to be properly judged. Anything sooner would simply be a knee jerk, panic reaction.

I like this.

We get beaten tomorrow and we're deep in it.

Not sure how Price will be under pressure should we lose. Smith went 5 years with underperforming and not winning anything. The club won't pull the plug after 7 games.

So are you saying "the club" has learnt nothing following "underperforming"?

He as a 2 year contract, can’t see him being replaced his season.

It would be very foolish and unfair to deny Steve Price at least a season and start of next season to get things going in the right direction. I can't believe anyone is even considering replacing him after only 6 games! Just give the poor bloke a chance and some time to impose his experience and expertise on this group of players who have been atrocious for over a year now.

Time will tell but he won't be sacked anytime soon I know that for sure. He'll get at least this season.

I'd suggest we are not underperforming and are actually performing to somewhere close to our potential.

Without wishing to sound like a broken record, the fact is that our recruitment as been very average in the last few years. The accumulation of those years has slowly built to our present mediocre state.. if you seriously think randomly sacking coaches until we miraculously solve this ingrained problem then you havent the foggiest...

If he didn't win again before the split I bet he would be gone and Henderson in. Cast your mind back to Steve Anderson - how many games did get?

I think it would be fair to judge Steve towards the end of this season. If he has not improved us in that time it's likely he won't. Until then I'm right behind him.

Steve Anderson was given free rein on recruitment and basically put together a whole new squad, which showed absolutely zero quality or potential for improvement in the time he had with them.

Price is still pretty much having to deal with somebody else's mess and it could be argued that they have improved slightly on where we were in September - whereas Anderson was without doubt going backwards very quickly.

This stuff about inheriting a mess doesn't stand up.

In 2016, we won the league leaders' shield and made two major finals. We started 2017 on Betfair as the favourites to win the Grand Final. The debate at the start of 2017 was not "we have a weak squad" but was whether we needed a new coach to start us winning, rather than losing Grand Final.

Last year we had a bad season, but the squad that we started this season with was still strong enough that a lot of people on here thought we should be top 4 minimum.

if you want to know what inheriting a mess is like, ask Daryl Powell. He took over a team left at the bottom of the table, and because the club was in deep financial mess he was forced to sell his best player (Chase) and best young player (Clark).

So finishing outside the top 8, regularly being bummed, spending a huge wedge on a half back who most consider well past his not-that-great best and having most observers acknowledge we have one of the worst backlines in the league isn't a mess?

I'd like to see what folk consider actually a pretty poor position then?