Happy with the appointment.. However, who was doing this sort of work before? Powell? Fitzpatrick?

Who are we taking work away from here?

I believe it was Fitzpatrick and they would then speak to the board and coach.

Karl can now concentrate more on off field stuff like why is our stadium dirty, rusty and even damaged in places. Also try and get a decent kit supplier so items are actually available in the club shop.

happy days

Very happy with this, hopefully he will help keep us level rather than leaning too far one way or the other

If Burgess does want to come here as a stepping stone to an NRL job (which is fine), we need some continuity in the recruitment and planning of the squad, from bringing in overseas players to domestic recruitment and bringing players through the Academy. It can't just be a case of "replace Powell's squad and bring in Burgess' squad". So if we have a more permanent presence as DoR that should enable more continuity and let the coach focus on just coaching the first team squad and not worry so much about the overall planning of the club's future.

He's already telling Chambers things he wants doing with the youth side already so he clearly wants to change things at a base level. Never heard Price or Powell talking about the youth side development plans, so this coukd be the Golden ticket for the Future, fingers crossed

If burgess does end up being successful and leaves after 2 or 3 seasons for better things I'd rather gary Chambers be planning for a suitable successor than KFP, leave him to the silly gimmicks.

I would prefer that KFP and GC work independently from each other and report direct to Middleton/The Board.
That would make more sense to me than GC reporting to KF. Does anyone know which way round it actually is?

Gonna stick up for Price here. He came and looked at the structure at the time and wanted it to mimic the NRL path. What (if anything) changed while he was here I don't know, but we have seen some better prepared youth players come through IMO. I think that side of things is Price's forte. He's getting a good rep down under, and turned us halfway into a Wane-style against-the-odds team who played better when we had the stars out injured. Maybe he just couldn't sort out the soft culture?

The demands of the club need to change is the bottom line & higher standards need to be set . We have too many comfort zone players ,happy to amble about on the pitch ,knowing the fans will clap them off at the end & be back the week after.

I mean this is what Powell was supposedly brought in to change but it seemed like he ruffled feathers and the players were never really on board with him.

What changed at Warrington for Price was the meddling in player recruitment & retention by the board.

Both Price & KFP said "No" to signing Latu, but SM over ruled them both and signed him anyway. That's when SM agreed to never get involved again in player recruitment.

The same happened with the extension handed to Sita by other members of the board including KFP. Hence why Price played him on the wing in one of the games to send a message.

which SM

Powell ruffled the wrong players feathers in some cases, but not all in my opinion. Ie, Mulhern who got way too big for his boots with his new contract demands. But I'm hoping Chambers understands the club & squad better and will target the correct players. Two in particular have already faced the 'hairdryer' (not to be posted on this board though)

Simon Moran

Really don't understand why you'd be poking your nose into signing/re-signing players and going over the head of your coach and CEO. If Latu and Sita were his decisions then thank heavens he's taken a step back.

Interesting to hear about Mulhern, you can't imagine any players getting too arrogant with Sam in charge.

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So basically you are saying that various board members, at various times, have made player recruitment decisions independent of, and in opposition to, the wishes of the coach at the time.

May I ask.

1. Does this extend to young players being sent out on loan/exile ?
2. When did this stop (if it has)?

All I care about is..............who signed dudson???

If only Moran had ordered a cappuccino instead of a latte during that particular meeting, that misunderstanding could have been avoided.

I'm not much of a gambler but I would stick quite a bit on the two who copped it both have a surname beginning with the same letter?

Interestingly though Powell was complimentary about his dealings over a new contract with Mulhern - the only player he mentioned in this respect.

That's a bet I can get behind it was fun working out which 1st team players it couldn't be

So far I had Ashton, Lynch, Vaughan, Kasiano, Philbin, Bullock, Shingler, Green, Nicholson.

I have always been convinced that Burrell was not a Price signing and now we hear that the head coach was not fully on board with Latu’s signing and Sita’s contract extension.
So from what I read some of the board then agreed to become less involved in the recruitment and retention.
That is sort of backed up by Stuart Middletown recent interview where he says they maybe gave Powell too much control.

“Last year’s results were very disappointing after putting all the resources in place and I think we’ve learned now that in the future we’ve got to ask a lot more questions and not just give someone a free rein and let them do what they want.

“We have to challenge things if we think something is not right, and it’s clear we didn’t get it right last year, we need to make sure we don’t go through that procedure again.”

Depending on how you interpret those comments you could see that as going back to the Latu / Sita days.
I just hope that Sam and Chambers are strong enough to resist any unwanted interference. Clearly the board need to check and challenge but my worry is that “if you don’t get it off your Dad then you go to your Mum” so if a players says he wants £X for his new contract and the coaching team think he is only worth £Y then we can’t have players going to Mum to get what they want. We have to strike the right balance between check and challenge and interfering. I think those comments open the door a bit.

I think this is a problem Warrington have faced since becoming one of the big 4. We are really the only RL club who spends, and it's easy to see why a player who comes here (even with the best intentions) falls into the trap of wanting a 'slice of the cake' with relatively little pressure to perform (big money, long contract, too close relationship with top brass, future sorted etc).

Maybe if we want this to change moving forward, we have to look at who we get, how we get them, and how we write their contract. Maybe an incentivised deal similar to what we offered Holbrook is the way to go? This is obviously difficult with a salary cap in place.