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| Quote ="Moe syslak"but to come on here and have a pop at moran simply beggars belief.'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"
Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
So his pennies have brought a world class centre to the club, two quality (if injury prone) props and most fans favourite player to the club. I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.
Moran, the Board, Lowes (though I agree with that one), half the back room staff, Doug Hoyle, Briers, King, Monaghan, Rauhihi, Clarke, Bridge, Johnson (agree again), Reardon (and again), Penny, all the shop and ticket office staff, the stewards, and Mr "On 3, 3 - 2 - 1" (definately get rid of him) all have to go!
Won't be much left
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans (does anyone remember the comments in the report) and the club has alwasy been bigger than any number of individuals.
However I do firmly believe that Simon Moran is essential to the future of the club but I do wish he would get some better people and advice around him. Clearly things are sliding away at an alarming rate of knots.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.'"
This is what has been happening and so far it's got us nowhere, as i say paper over the cracks, adding to the problem rather than sorting the problem out.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans.'"
I wouldn't go that far, Doug Hoyle got us the ground nobody else.
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| I would like to see a Director of Rugby on the board to represent the sporting side of the club at board level.
From what I understand, in addition to Moran, the board consists of Lance James (local engineerings company), Diana Terris (WBC Chief Exec), Bill Holroyd (local businessman) and Norman Summers (Greenhalls accountant.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans (does anyone remember the comments in the report) and the club has alwasy been bigger than any number of individuals.
However I do firmly believe that Simon Moran is essential to the future of the club but I do wish he would get some better people and advice around him. Clearly things are sliding away at an alarming rate of knots.'"
It goes back to before the stadium. Don't forget, and granted I am using his words; the bought the majority shareholding to ensure the club's priorty would be making the team as strong as possible. Not take whatever profits there may be.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm saying i have come to the opinion that Simon Moran has a limited knowledge of Rugby League due to conversations that i have been involved in within his presence on a number of occasions.'"
Surely the fact that Simon Moran associates with the likes of Latchford Wolvesfan is damning enough evidence.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I wouldn't go that far, Doug Hoyle got us the ground nobody else.'"
Incorrect and that is an insulting comment to the work that many, many people did on this proposal. Did you ever read the report that got published after the enquiry? It stated that the ground and store did break planning guidelines but they passed it because of the depth of support of the fans and the damage it would do to the community if the premier sporting club in the town ceased to exist.
The move to the stadium will always be the pivotal moment in the history of this club. Unfortunately a lot of the goodwill generated during this time has now been lost.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
Anderson.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It goes back to before the stadium. Don't forget, and granted I am using his words; the bought the majority shareholding to ensure the club's priorty would be making the team as strong as possible. Not take whatever profits there may be.'"
I am also aware of that and that was a crucial time in keeping the club going in that period before the stadium proposal was past. But I still state that it was the building of the new stadium that was the pivotal moment in the future of this club and that happened because of the will of many people.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Incorrect and that is an insulting comment to the work that many, many people did on this proposal. Did you ever read the report that got published after the enquiry? It stated that the ground and store did break planning guidelines but they passed it because of the depth of support of the fans and the damage it would do to the community if the premier sporting club in the town ceased to exist. '"
You believe that
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| Quote ="Thelonius"So his pennies have brought a world class centre to the club, two quality (if injury prone) props and most fans favourite player to the club. I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.
Moran, the Board, Lowes (though I agree with that one), half the back room staff, Doug Hoyle, Briers, King, Monaghan, Rauhihi, Clarke, Bridge, Johnson (agree again), Reardon (and again), Penny, all the shop and ticket office staff, the stewards, and Mr "On 3, 3 - 2 - 1" (definately get rid of him) all have to go!
Won't be much left
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If you are referring to Martin Gleeson I think a much more accurate description would be former world class centre.
Think his lifestyle choices ruined him tbh.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I wouldn't go that far, Doug Hoyle got us the ground nobody else.'"
That explains the guys devine right to swan around like he owns the joint, make woefully inaccurate claims in the press and generally talk absolute nonsense.
The amount of council involvement in the club also isn't healthy if you ask me.
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| Incidentally can I just state that Tony Smith is definitely NOT the man for Warrington after what happened at the World Cup.
We need to go for the RIGHT man for this job and not just a name certain board members might think is the top man. I hope they have learned their lesson from signing the 'best centre in the world', Matt King.
Hanley might be a option but I wonder if he is still current enough in his methods and wonder how long he would be prepared to stick around.
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| Quote ="Lowes Out Hanley In"
If you are referring to Martin Gleeson I think a much more accurate description would be former world class centre.
Think his lifestyle choices ruined him tbh.'"
Which would suggest that he used to be World Class, which is what he was when SM funded the transfer!
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"You believe that
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Yes and it was there in black and white in the report. Or are you saying that the public enquiry process was corrupt?
Please explain to me how Doug Hoyle single-handedly got the stadium project passed. I genuinely want to hear this.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Incidentally can I just state that Tony Smith is definitely NOT the man for Warrington after what happened at the World Cup.
We need to go for the RIGHT man for this job and not just a name certain board members might think is the top man. I hope they have learned their lesson from signing the 'best centre in the world', Matt King.
Hanley might be a option but I wonder if he is still current enough in his methods and wonder how long he would be prepared to stick around.'"
I totally agree, Tony Smith is not the right man for us.
We do indeed need a Hanley type coach, a strict discliplinarian who wont tolerate the alcoholism and general poor discipline that has plagued this club for decades.
If Hanley would commit himself completely then the board should get him in and support him 110%.
If not then we need to unearth another coach of a similar vein.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Yes and it was there in black and white in the report. Or are you saying that the public enquiry process was corrupt?
Please explain to me how Doug Hoyle single-handedly got the stadium project passed. I genuinely want to hear this.'"
PM sent.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Which would suggest that he used to be World Class, which is what he was when SM funded the transfer!'"
I beg to disagree, Saints recognised this guys failings and used the 'betting affair' as an excellent excuse to offload the troubled star.
Looking back Saints well and truly had our pants down and were laughing all the way to the bank.
The signing of Gleeson must surely go down as one of the biggest failures that this club has witnessed and it cost us (Moran) £150k
Geordies comments on cover ups and disciplinary issues could be linked to what I have said, no?
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| Quote ="Geordie"I don't think anyone at all is questioning how good Simon Moran is for the club or how commited he is, the man is a fan first and foremost who put his money where his mouth was when we where in the poop.'"
I think LatchfordWolvesFan is. Which, frankly, I find absolutely staggering.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"I think LatchfordWolvesFan is. Which, frankly, I find absolutely staggering.'"
Im not saying he's bad for the club but he could run it a lot better.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Im not saying he's bad for the club but he could run it a lot better.'"
You did. You said:
Quote The sooner he goes the better, he's just a fan with lots of money, he now's nothing about Rugby League.'"
That is of course unless you meant something different by 'the sooner he goes the better'.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"You did. You said:
That is of course unless you meant something different by 'the sooner he goes the better'.'"
So i didn't say "He's bad for the club" then.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"So i didn't say "He's bad for the club" then.'"
They mean the same thing and you know it.
Saying
Quote The sooner he goes the better '"
Is congruent with saying
Quote He's bad for the club'"
If you don't think he is bad for the club, then why did you say 'the sooner he goes the better'?
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