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| Anyone that's critical of Hicks must have a short memory seing as last season he was our stand out player.
Everyone has an off day, yet listening to the radio (which was actually the worst commentary in the world seeing as it was doing about 50 other games at the same time) i recall Hicks getting kicks from the touchline ?
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Anyone that's critical of Hicks must have a short memory seing as last season he was our stand out player.
Everyone has an off day, yet listening to the radio (which was actually the worst commentary in the world seeing as it was doing about 50 other games at the same time) i recall Hicks getting kicks from the touchline ?'"
I'll never criticise somebody for missing a shot at goal under those circumstances. I will criticise Chris Hicks though, he's abysmal at fullback. He takes ages to field general kicks in play, then doesn't beat a man running the ball back lethargicly. He doesn't support the ball carrier from there whatsoever neither.
His performance levels are very different dependant on whether he's on the wing or at fullback. He looks vastly improved from the wing, not just his try scoring exploits, but he looks far happier collecting the ball at acting half etc.
We need Riley or Mathers fit asap.
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| Quote ="JWP"I'll never criticise somebody for missing a shot at goal under those circumstances. I will criticise Chris Hicks though, he's abysmal at fullback. He takes ages to field general kicks in play, then doesn't beat a man running the ball back lethargicly. He doesn't support the ball carrier from there whatsoever neither.
His performance levels are very different dependant on whether he's on the wing or at fullback. He looks vastly improved from the wing, not just his try scoring exploits, but he looks far happier collecting the ball at acting half etc.
We need Riley or Mathers fit asap.'"
is playing out of position really his fault though, like you said yourself on the wing he's a completely different prospect
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"is playing out of position really his fault though, like you said yourself on the wing he's a completely different prospect'"
It's circumstance, he's obviously the most 'natural' option that we have right now.
It just baffles me that three coaches have played him there, and nobody seems to have noticed how crap he is there. I'd play Chris Murphy from the 21's there, I know your exposing a kid, and the conditions yesterday weren't the best to put a young lad under that pressure given the nerves etc allied with the poor conditions perhaps yesterday it was best that Hicks played, but I don't think Hicks performs well from fullback, hopefully Riley will be fit soon & problem solved.
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| Quote ="JWP"It's circumstance, he's obviously the most 'natural' option that we have right now.
It just baffles me that three coaches have played him there, and nobody seems to have noticed how crap he is there. I'd play Chris Murphy from the 21's there, I know your exposing a kid, and the conditions yesterday weren't the best to put a young lad under that pressure given the nerves etc allied with the poor conditions perhaps yesterday it was best that Hicks played, but I don't think Hicks performs well from fullback, hopefully Riley will be fit soon & problem solved.'"
Weigh it up
Hicks on the wing awesome
Hicks at fullback rubbish
Murphy on at fullback. Whats the worse that could happen, he'd be rubbish?
What's the difference, give the lad a go then and put Hicks in a position were he is actually a threat.
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| Quote ="JWP"I'll never criticise somebody for missing a shot at goal under those circumstances. I will criticise Chris Hicks though, he's abysmal at fullback. He takes ages to field general kicks in play, then doesn't beat a man running the ball back lethargicly. He doesn't support the ball carrier from there whatsoever neither.
His performance levels are very different dependant on whether he's on the wing or at fullback. He looks vastly improved from the wing, not just his try scoring exploits, but he looks far happier collecting the ball at acting half etc.
We need Riley or Mathers fit asap.'"
My only issue with Hicks, is his choice of returning the kick. He always goes straight at he defender, no step, no fend whatsoever. Really can't understand it.
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| Quote ="howley-wire"bridge or briers btw way how come did briers didnt play is he injured'"
As far as I recall the goal kicking went to Hicks as Briers couldn't kick for toffee
We've lost a game have we? Player-bashing coming out already. Only had a new coach for a few weeks and we're already at it
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| Quote ="JWP"It's circumstance, he's obviously the most 'natural' option that we have right now.
It just baffles me that three coaches have played him there, and nobody seems to have noticed how crap he is there. I'd play Chris Murphy from the 21's there, I know your exposing a kid, and the conditions yesterday weren't the best to put a young lad under that pressure given the nerves etc allied with the poor conditions perhaps yesterday it was best that Hicks played, but I don't think Hicks performs well from fullback, hopefully Riley will be fit soon & problem solved.'"
I think they must judging his suitability on the average Warrington fans judgment on how well they deal with high kicks.
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| anyone catch the last couple of minutes in the Pies v Stains game Wellens took a ball and got knocked unconscious still holding the ball
All it takes is to be brave and Wellens has that in spades
maybe our guys are woried about lesser money on image rights
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| Quote ="JWP"It's circumstance, he's obviously the most 'natural' option that we have right now.
It just baffles me that three coaches have played him there, and nobody seems to have noticed how crap he is there. I'd play Chris Murphy from the 21's there, I know your exposing a kid, and the conditions yesterday weren't the best to put a young lad under that pressure given the nerves etc allied with the poor conditions perhaps yesterday it was best that Hicks played, but I don't think Hicks performs well from fullback, hopefully Riley will be fit soon & problem solved.'"
Yeah I think Smith needs to make a signing, somebody who can play fullback. I wonder if he knows any Super League fullbacks who could fit the bill.
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| Quote ="howley-wire"How Bad his he at kicking , cudnt kick a straight goal to at least level the game and both teams share a point , tbh what as he done this season'"
This wasn't the reason we lost the game.
Question.
Was you there at Hull last year when Hicks kicked a goal in a similar position at the same time in the game to win us the match.
It's called pressure, sometimes people can handle it and sometimes they cant and to answer your question of "What has he done this season" he's our top try scorer so far this year.
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| Quote ="Inside Knowledge"This wasn't the reason we lost the game.
Question.
Was you there at Hull last year when Hicks kicked a goal in a similar position at the same time in the game to win us the match.
It's called pressure, sometimes people can handle it and sometimes they cant and to answer your question of "What has he done this season" he's our top try scorer so far this year.
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i know
What's the Wire fans goal this season
Lets pick on our biggest attacking threat and lower his confidence
Next weeks threads :-
Westwood can't drive a ball for sh--.
Briers should be in the pack.
Matt King was defo man of the match.
Sack Tony Smith.
Rauhihi's cabbage soup diet.
Kevin Pennys try saving tackle.
Why can't we be more like Widnes.
sometimes some of you guys get me down more than Wire ever could
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| Didn't go to the match but I've really come to the conclusion that our biggest problem is the 10% of fans who like nothing better than to criticise and berate players.
Hicks was our player of the year last year.
He has been very consistent this year - even when not playing in his preferred position.
So - he missed a slot at goal.
He's saved us far more times than he's let us down.
The club - and more importantly the players - need to know the fans are supporting them. Give them stick when it's due but it's not due every game.
Lay off Chris
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| Quote ="fes"Didn't go to the match but I've really come to the conclusion that our biggest problem is the 10% of fans who like nothing better than to criticise and berate players.
Hicks was our player of the year last year.
He has been very consistent this year - even when not playing in his preferred position.
So - he missed a slot at goal.
He's saved us far more times than he's let us down.
The club - and more importantly the players - need to know the fans are supporting them. Give them stick when it's due but it's not due every game.
Lay off Chris'"
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"ha grow some balls and take a defeat! we've had to suffer alot more than you men!'"
That's true, you have to live in Salford.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Yeah I think Smith needs to make a signing, somebody who can play fullback. I wonder if he knows any Super League fullbacks who could fit the bill.'"
Hence the signing of Richie Mathers
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Don Fox can rest in peace now.'"
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| Quote ="howley-wire"no my eyes dont zoom in mate so how could in see if he slipped'"
i was stood right behind the sticks he was kicking towards, and he did slip on approach to the ball.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Remember Hicks last minute winner at Hull last year? No? You were probably booing.'"
He probably wasn't there.
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| Ive noticed the choice of FB is debatable, id go with Riley, he tends to get past players at times and even go most of the length if the defense is exposed. When was the last time we saw Hicks do this?
I think Hicks should stay on the wing, best place for him.
Why move somebody from their best position when their an obvious threat, when we also have the option for cover their, in Riley.
Hope TS turns it around
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| Cant we lock this thread already, its just people looking for someone to blame for the defeat. It was[uNOT[/u Hicks' fault
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| Hicks got 2 great kicks in the match, i think this is a bit harsh, i didn't think the last conversion chance was a gimme.
I didn't know he could kick goals when we signedhim last year, he is doing a stirling job as a fill in kicker.
What happened to Briers doing the kicking (i know he didn't play), can he just not be bothered to practise or does he have a long term injury.
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| Quote ="Dawson"What happened to Briers doing the kicking (i know he didn't play), can he just not be bothered to practise or does he have a long term injury.'"
At Castleford away last year, when Briers was injured it meant that we needed another kicker. We knew that he could kick goals and he took over and did well, and then he carried on and is a very good goal kicker.
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| Quote ="slimwire66"i was stood right behind the sticks he was kicking towards, and he did slip on approach to the ball.'"
Not looking at the highlights on tv. More like he took the cone when he attempted to kick the ball. Anyway cant change the result and I am sure he will win us more than he loses.
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| Quote ="Dean Richmond"Ive noticed the choice of FB is debatable, id go with Riley, he tends to get past players at times and even go most of the length if the defense is exposed. When was the last time we saw Hicks do this?
I think Hicks should stay on the wing, best place for him.
Why move somebody from their best position when their an obvious threat, when we also have the option for cover their, in Riley.
Hope TS turns it around'"
I'm sure Riley would play at full back if fit. Well, until Mathers is fit. Then Riley and Hicks on the wings? But that means King back in the centres. I don't know.
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