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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"we never won owt while Johnny Davies was here either and he was $hit hot........'"
very true but he was a legend before he played for us. and had won trophys.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"very true but he was a legend before he played for us. and had won trophys.'"
Ah, I see. Trophies equate to legendary status.
I wish we'd signed that legendary Ricky Bibey.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Ah, I see. Trophies equate to legendary status.
I wish we'd signed that legendary Ricky Bibey.'"
briers isnt in jd's league. 30 odd caps for wales ru, 10 for GB 10 for wales rl not to mention his club stats. thats a legend.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"briers isnt in jd's league. 30 odd caps for wales ru, 10 for GB 10 for wales rl not to mention his club stats. thats a legend.'"
Club stats? Out of the two mentioned there, Davies and Briers, who is higher on appearances and points for the club?
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"very true but he was a legend before he played for us. and had won trophys.'"
so was Andy Currier........
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Club stats? Out of the two mentioned there, Davies and Briers, who is higher on appearances and points for the club?'"
yep your right there is briers.
but would you class briers as a legend?
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"yep your right there is briers.
but would you class briers as a legend?'"
From the method you have judged JD and Greg, yes.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"yep your right there is briers.
but would you class briers as a legend?'"
briers has got to be a legend, how many times he has single handily won a match for us is quite outstanding
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"briers has got to be a legend'"
Are you being serious with this.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Are you being serious with this.'"
no i thought i would say it as a joke
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"From the method you have judged JD and Greg, yes.'"
how briers played for GB 1 time and wales 18 times. hes racked up so many points coz of the amount of time hes been here.
how long was jd at wire 3 seasons.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"how briers played for GB 1 time and wales 18 times. hes racked up so many points coz of the amount of time hes been here.
how long was jd at wire 3 seasons.'"
Two lasting images from Greg and JD's League careers are respective long range, high quality tries against the Ockers.
A lasting image from Briers' playing career will perhaps be his performance against the Ockers in the World Cup, not least his try when he made a bit of a fool of a certain Darren Lockyer.
That said, I'm sure Andy Farrell will go down as a Wigan legend, yet we can hardly sit around misty eyed at his international memoirs.
You then used 'club stats', in which Briers dominates quite a substantial number of players, to be fair. It will be quite difficult for fair minded historians to take into consideration his contribution towards some of our biggest performances, combined with impressive stats, such as his sheer quantity (not to mention quality) of 40-20s, breaks, assists, drop goals, goals and disregard an arguement for him to be classed in the 'legend' bracket.
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| Just having a quick look to see how this thread ended up....I'm glad I did because I haven't laughed so much in years with the suggestion that Briers is in the same bracket as Jonathan Davies...
Now Davies isn't a Warrington legend, fair enough, he wasn't here long enough to warrant that one, but he is a RUGBY legend having excelled at both codes of the game, and basically being the type of player who would attract a crowd purely by being on the team sheet.
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| Briers was awesome off the bench yesterday
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"Briers was awesome off the bench yesterday'"
Seconded but hammering him over alleged previous misadventures or making unfair comparisons to players of different generations is much more fun for most people on here.
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| Quote ="tino"lee briers has done the first 2
briers hasn't led us out at wembley and hasn't done any of the international things but to be fair when i watched mike gregory play i was always a lot less bothered about what he did for gb than what he did for wire, maybe that's just my preference though...but now i think of it how about the wales aus game when briers demolished them?
but then look at all briers scoring records which mike gregory didn't have and when wire have been through poor times when we struggled to score we always looked to briers, even remember him scoring something like 3 drop goals in a game once to beat halifax
in my eyes what was most important was that mike greg made going to wilderspool worthwhile and briers has done the same at wilders and at hj, absolute legend and thoroughly deserves the title, never even particularly been one of my favourite players but i can appreciate that the guy has been a top servant to our club and i really think other people should appreciate this too
just alright? no chance'"
Wasnt it 4 drop goals? then we got beat??
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| Quote ="LOngbarn Wire"Wasnt it 4 drop goals? then we got beat??'"
proves my point exactly. legend.
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| Quote ="tino"proves my point exactly. legend.'"
No point living in the past though
You're only as good as your last game
Everyones been posting at how 'Awesome' he was yesterday, he was nothing more than average IMO however it was his best game of the season, doesnt really say much about his previous matches though
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| Quote ="tino"proves my point exactly. legend.'"
How?? Great servant yes, legend..no.
Cant remember his name, but didnt a player for workington score 4 drop goals again us at Wilderspool in '95, think we got beat 16-14...he must be a legend too then........
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| I think if Smith can find a way to challenge & motivate Lee Briers, then he still has a lot to offer this club. Whilst at the same time, Smith can develop areas of his game, defensive options that he takes etc, then we might yet still be to see the best of Lee Briers. Sean Long isn't the same lethal finisher that he was 5 years ago, and there was a time when his form dipped, it looked like he may leave Saints, even come to us. What Saints managed to do was sell a different role to him within the team, for him to change his game and he's thrived as has the likes of Pryce and Long has arguably in terms of all round game produced his best stuff, just not perhaps his best individual stuff, which was perhaps when the legs had a yard more pace.
I think the same could be for Briers, physically, he won't be as quick as he was in 2000/2001 doing that Nikau runaround, and dancing through, but in terms of the cliched 'first yard in your head', he's still better than most. I reckon we could get a better team orientated Briers than ever before, guidance, leadership, kicking game etc if he wants it. The fact that Smith made a fuss of him post match, suggests that he's indicated in some way that he's willing to put the work in.
The thing that Smith evidently wants, is for you to do your shift in training, look after yourself, do the right things, eat, sleep, drink etc. If Briers wants to extend his career, and have an Indian summer like Long has done for the last 2-3 years, he's very capable, it's kinda the ball in his court so to speak.
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| Quote ="LOngbarn Wire"Wasnt it 4 drop goals? then we got beat??'"
Paul Bishop once kicked 5 drop goals in a Cup semi at Wigan, and we won that match....Bish the legend, anyone??...
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Paul Bishop once kicked 5 drop goals in a Cup semi at Wigan, and we won that match....Bish the legend, anyone??...
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| Quote ="LOngbarn Wire"icon_lol.gif'"
...Well, 2 can play the old drop goals game...
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| it once said on wikipedia that briers had a wooden leg AND turned up to training on a tractor now i don't really know what else you doubters want from the guy he is a legend end of story anyone who doesn't think he is a legend doesn't get a say in whether he is a legend or not
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| the draw at wilderspool against wigan, last kick of the game briers rescued a point i think it was 17-17. he came up trumps then
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