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| I agree with the Duck on one point. THAT kick was under immense pressure and the blame was not Patton’s alone.
The thing I don’t understand in this whole discussion is this. At seasons start DP was clearly 3rd choice halfback. Not marquee, not second coice but third, why is he being judged as a starting half back?
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| I’m not sure Nazi references are relevant or helpful in a discussion about something as trivial as sport though.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Once again I DIDN'T.'"
Once again, you did imply that those with contra views to yours are Nazis, and your not changing my viewpoint on this. No doubt you will carry on this one man crusade when nobody is criticising Patton, even when you have stated you don't want him here next season. Your kicking against an open door, but are so blind that you cannot see it.
I just think every post of yours is attention seeking click bait, which your now using extremely offensive analogies to get a rise out of people.
Well done, you've succeeded with me and I hope your pleased with yourself!
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| Too right Capitan...
The ball was through to Patton under tremendous pressure from Saints. 5 tackles we had to clear that area and we didn't....
But hey the Patton hit squad see no other guilt....just smell the custard some of you.
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| I didn't offend you. You don't like it because you don't like my view. Tough. I don't like some but I'll debate it out...not '6th Sense' everything...they see what that want to see.
A door only opens one way...but it's always totally different to the other depending on which side of the door you stand....try stepping through it.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I didn't offend you. You don't like it because you don't like my view. Tough. I don't like some but I'll debate it out...not '6th Sense' everything...they see what that want to see.
A door only opens one way...but it's always totally different to the other depending on which side of the door you stand....try stepping through it.'"
You have offended me with your post. Try as you might to blame me for what you posted, that will not change. This is my last last post on the matter. Here's your opportunity to add being childish to being offensive by adding another meaningless response.
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| Obfuscation. Tactic of a maniac.
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| All this crap is why I rarely post on here.
Nazis have nothing to do with rugby league, and to allude that people who don't think Patton is good enough for Warrington are like Nazis is ridiculous and offensive.
13000+ posts and you come out with rubbish like this......i,'m outta here
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"You have offended me with your post. Try as you might to blame me for what you posted, that will not change. This is my last last post on the matter. Here's your opportunity to add being childish to being offensive by adding another meaningless response.'"
No I didn't offend with my post. ..you have taken offence from it by reading into it something that isn't there.
But I certainty don't wish for you to be offended personal...it was a paraphrase and I eliminate you from any inclusion of my initial post.
I apologise for the offence you have taken.
I often post childish posts... I find it very important to lower myself as to meet some others as equal...that also is concern on my behalf.
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| There goes another follow... nothing I posted was offensive...you taken offence from the word Nazi. What is offensive there...it's a word that is deep rooted in history and a history none of us should ever forget.
Back on topic....Patton...give him a break and stop all the following....at least to the end of October. We owe him that.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I’m not sure Nazi references are relevant or helpful in a discussion about something as trivial as sport though.'"
Fully agree.
If a youngster posted that he'd rightly receive a lot if criticism.
For someone who is (I believe) far older - you should know better Duckie.
I actually don't agree with a lot of the Patton criticism but never dream of responding in that manner.
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| I never used the word Nazi in my initial post...once again some seeing what they want to see. I'm talking about the millions of German's that followed Hitler.
That is to paraphrase how so many people are standing to get her singing the same psalm and slate Patton and he and his family see it...
Yet the club have complete faith in him and he has delivered and proved every single rip to be wrong. He is a Challenge Cup winner and will be a Grand Final winner to and by god I hope that salt stings some of the worst of the haters.
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| "Godwin's law" strikes again
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| Quote ="rubber duckie" We owe him that.'"
We owe him nothing but his contractual obligations. He has been extremely fortunate to start and feature in so many games for Wire which has largely come about by horrendous injuries to some and rank bad succession planning by others. He's also had a lot of good will as a Warringtonian.
Halfbacks are the lifeblood of the side, organising, managing games, creating openings, taking games by the scruff of the neck and influencing results - as well as kicking. He just doesn't have those skills. If he has a RL career after Warrington it will be at a lower standard club without a doubt. Whatever it is I wish him well and will consign him to the Durbin, Hulse, OBrien et al club.
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| The amnesty didn't even last as long as a game. The poor lad was rested and injured since Wembley and you're all gunning him down again.
Shamed to new depths...
You surprised me most 71. Reserved since our CC win and bang straight in there when the unity song starts up as not to be alone voice.
Well I'll be a lone voice and support Patton against you all if needs whether I get on your nerves...offend you...childish.
I don't care...unlike Patton I deserve the shat.
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| I tend to agree with RD on this one. Like many before him Dec Patton has been the selected whipping boy for the season and some of the comments on here do at times feel like a feeding frenzy. If a player is trying his best and his contract reflects his skill set then that's all I ask of him.
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| I can't remember one game where he's been above average. About the same level as Gary Hulse and Patton got twice as many games as him. I don't see what RU see in him although he can boot it into touch on the full. God knows who's going to bang that bucket now, I bet Stuart Pearce would do it.
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| At the end of the day he is the back-up halfback. In that role with a salary that reflects he compares quite well against his peers elsewhere in the league.
Saints - Richardson
Wigan - Sammut
Salford - ???????
Castleford - Ellis
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Leeds - McClelland
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In reality there is probably only Richardson in front of Patton. Which says pretty much all that we need to know about depth of quality of halfbacks in the English game.
You never know Patton may be a late bloomer like Gale who at the same age as Patton is now was propping up Super League with Harlequins. Can't see it myself though.
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| I apologise to everyone offended from a reference made about innocent people who fell under the spell of the wrongs of Hitler.
Using such a paraphrase wasn't within the spirit of the forum.
I wish you to know it has never been my intention to offend anyone.
I would also like to highlight that I never used the word Nazi in my initial post and neither did I say anyone was a Nazi...rather I was trying to make a point that you could be taken in like the millions of innocent German people...that is very different.
However my apology is without condition.
RD
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"At the end of the day he is the back-up halfback. In that role with a salary that reflects he compares quite well against his peers elsewhere in the league.
Saints - Richardson
Wigan - Sammut
Salford - ???????
Castleford - Ellis
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Catalans - Eric Le-Chef
Leeds - McClelland
Huddersfield - Russell
Hull KR - Chris Atkins
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London - Matt Davies(?)
In reality there is probably only Richardson in front of Patton. Which says pretty much all that we need to know about depth of quality of halfbacks in the English game.
You never know Patton may be a late bloomer like Gale who at the same age as Patton is now was propping up Super League with Harlequins. Can't see it myself though.'"
Good post.
However I wouldn't swap Patton for Richardson.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I apologise to everyone offended from a reference made about innocent people who fell under the spell of the wrongs of Hitler.
Using such a paraphrase wasn't within the spirit of the forum.
I wish you to know it has never been my intention to offend anyone.
I would also like to highlight that I never used the word Nazi in my initial post and neither did I say anyone was a Nazi...rather I was trying to make a point that you could be taken in like the millions of innocent German people...that is very different.
However my apology is without condition.
RD'"
That will be 2 apologies in 1 month. The 1st was for racism. The 2nd for the Hitler comparison. 3rd warning & your out.
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| Whether your post was offensive is by-the-by, I just think you need a break from this forum, stop seeing yourself as the champion of the minority view and an outspoken rogue, quite frankly you mostly come off as the end of a bell, and your antics/claims on other forums are embarrassing the rest of us and do us no favours.
Perhaps consider a new way to pass your time for a bit matey.
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| Honestly, the Duck can be a Pratt on occasion but he did NOT call anyone a Nazi. I don’t even see how what he said could be interpreted as that. He was (as far as I can tell) using the analogy to show how following the herd can lead to a “perceived wisdom”. I actually don’t think Patton is a world beater, but nor do I believe that our stuttering attack is solely down to him. He was one of our halfbacks when we attained second place as well as when we lost it. There are rather more fundamental problems with our team and sniping at the Duck won’t alter that.
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| I think we'll leave this here rd i think you should take the advice above and maybe have a couple of days off, at least get off this hill for the time being, its not doing you any favours
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