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| Just put in Kevin Penny Try and mistake for the one against Saints at Knowlsey road, there's also one at home too, think it's just kevin penny and the first link
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| Yes just seen it, also forgot about that HT as well.
I have to say I am very intrigued to see him play again.
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| Looking forward to seeing him back in P&B. A preseason with TS and co won't do him any harm either. He's still has the blistering speed, something we've lacked.
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| Well, if Tony says he's alright, I'll take Tony's word. My memory of him was us against (I think) Hull KR at our place. He was open in space, obviously going to score and started show boating and nearly got caught for the effort. If he's learnt to get his head down, work hard and improve the weaknesses in his game, then he'll be a real asset. If he hasn't then we've lost nowt by trying him.
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| I think this is excellent news & looking forward to seeing Penny at the HJ next season. He is exciting to watch & probably would have enhanced some games this season which hasn't been the best tbh (I know we are second, CC Semi - finalist etc).
Given a fair crack of the whip, he will be a success & SL standard - My money is on come this time next year we will be talking more about the tries he has scored than any defensive frailities (and you can quote me on that!!)
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| Quote ="Returnofthewire"I think this is excellent news & looking forward to seeing Penny at the HJ next season. He is exciting to watch & probably would have enhanced some games this season which hasn't been the best tbh (I know we are second, CC Semi - finalist etc).
Given a fair crack of the whip, he will be a success & SL standard - My money is on come this time next year we will be talking more about the tries he has scored than any defensive frailities (and you can quote me on that!!)
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I am with you on this. He suffered from being on the outside shoulder of King and LAnderson in defence.
Does he still have that same, long striding speed?
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| Delighted.
Make the doubters eat their words, Kev.
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| Whilst I'm pleased for Penny I'm just not sure it will help sell even more season tickets. Whilst this is a bigger debate for another topic regarding the structure of the game but so far we've lost Adrian Morley & Gareth Carvell with Roy Asotasi (Sp) coming in. What with the alleged other not named departure as mentioned by Gary Skent's to come. I just hope there is another player to be named. (Not including Anthony England)
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| Quote ="mark_m"I am with you on this. He suffered from being on the outside shoulder of King and LAnderson in defence.
Does he still have that same, long striding speed?'"
it wasn't Anderson that let him down in defence, it was king playing a position unfamiliar to him in his first season.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Whilst I'm pleased for Penny I'm just not sure it will help sell even more season tickets. Whilst this is a bigger debate for another topic regarding the structure of the game but so far we've lost Adrian Morley & Gareth Carvell with Roy Asotasi (Sp) coming in. What with the alleged other not named departure as mentioned by Gary Skent's to come. I just hope there is another player to be named. (Not including Anthony England)'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"james graham.'"
Rubber Duckie I wouldn't if I was you. The inks not dry on that Gareth Hock Warrington contract you mentioned
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| I never wrote anything about a "contract"! I said only what I new about, that was that hock said, that there was talks.
Once before the loan deal to widnes and another more recently.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Whilst I'm pleased for Penny I'm just not sure it will help sell even more season tickets. Whilst this is a bigger debate for another topic regarding the structure of the game but so far we've lost Adrian Morley & Gareth Carvell with Roy Asotasi (Sp) coming in. What with the alleged other not named departure as mentioned by Gary Skent's to come. I just hope there is another player to be named. (Not including Anthony England)'"
On the one hand I agree, especially if that departure is Hodgson who has been immense for us. However, if the lack of signings means we're pushing our academy lads through, developing a proper feeder system and (as much as I hate to say it) turning ourselves into a Wigan or Saints model, where there seems to be an endless stream of young talent waiting in the wings, then so much the better. It's not that long ago we seemed to be relying on big Aussie imports to keep us going, now we've got a solid core of Warrington lads and if we can grow our local talent base, I'd prefer that to marquee signings for the sake of it.
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| I agree with you Blood, there is a different kind of excitement and pride in watching the homegrown kids come through the ranks and shine. Although we must not be too blinkered and understand that the occasional infusion of new blood can be a good thing if it supplements what we have got and adds something extra. It can also put bums on seats if it is the right choice.
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| It's a great debate this and one that's worthy of its own thread. It's a damed if you do damed if you don't. It's similar to what that little bloke in charge of the Football Association is asking for. We forget our riches in that we have Dwyer, G Riley and a few others who can step up. I think one thing is for sure "We all trust in Tony Smith"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"it wasn't Anderson that let him down in defence, it was king playing a position unfamiliar to him in his first season.'"
It was both and a failure of the edge structure. LAnderson had a particularly issue with jumping out of the line, hitting and not sticking thus causing King to step into the tackle and causing an overlap on his outside shoulder. King also suffered from ball watching and lost shape.
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| Quote ="mark_m"It was both and a failure of the edge structure. LAnderson had a particularly issue with jumping out of the line, hitting and not sticking thus causing King to step into the tackle and causing an overlap on his outside shoulder. King also suffered from ball watching and lost shape.'"
fair observation
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| Quote ="mark_m"It was both and a failure of the edge structure. LAnderson had a particularly issue with jumping out of the line, hitting and not sticking thus causing King to step into the tackle and causing an overlap on his outside shoulder. King also suffered from ball watching and lost shape.'"
Yes and to complete the picture, Monas was the left side halfback at that time, but obviouly he preferred to drift infield and get involved in the tackling rather than usual practice of halfbacks standing inside or even outside the centre, meaning the left edge was sometimes triply exposed.
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| Quote ="SEB"Yes and to complete the picture, Monas was the left side halfback at that time, but obviouly he preferred to drift infield and get involved in the tackling rather than usual practice of halfbacks standing inside or even outside the centre, meaning the left edge was sometimes triply exposed.'"
No, no, no. It was all Penny's fault.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Delighted.
Make the doubters eat their words, Kev.'"
+1. On his day he was a real crowd drawer. If he's still got that raw paxe and has accquired a bit more RL intelligence he could yet fulfill all that early promise.
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| The great thing about this signing is pretty much everyone is willing him to come good..... when he runs out for his first game back in the first team he will get a tremendous reception... it should fill him with confidence. He could explode back onto the scene like he did in his debut season.
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| I am sure you are right, he will get a great reception when he runs onto the field. But other than the warm-up games, it might be a while before he gets a game. He is the reserve winger. Unless TS is going to use him a little more frequently (than Williams) in order to push Riley and give him some competition ?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"The great thing about this signing is pretty much everyone is willing him to come good..... '"
I wouldn't bank on it, deckchair.
There'll by plenty in the South Stand, giving him dog's abuse. Helmets.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"I wouldn't bank on it, deckchair.
There'll by plenty in the South Stand, giving him dog's abuse. Helmets.'"
If Tony Smith picked the under 19's for every game next year we would still go and support Warrington. I support the club and then the players.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"If Tony Smith picked the under 19's for every game next year we would still go and support Warrington. I support the club and then the players.'"
Exactly mate, well said.
It is a shame some of the muppets on here don't think like instead of continually slagging of certain players.
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