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| Same for the hard up milennials who are working long hours jobs to cover their rent, that's why they use instagram.
Just get a standard line which you can cut and paste, like 'hey hot stuff u wana get jiggy ", send it off as a direct message to a few hundred potential partners, see who responds.
It's a time efficient way to find a partner.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Oh come on it's one good game. He's not good enough for where we need to be'"
If crooks didnt score 4 trys against wakey,he would have been man of the match in that as well,loves it with us,and wanted to stay last year.Terrific signing for us and would be surprised if he wants to leave us come the season end.
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| Quote ="des lawson"If crooks didnt score 4 trys against wakey,he would have been man of the match in that as well,loves it with us,and wanted to stay last year.Terrific signing for us and would be surprised if he wants to leave us come the season end.'"
Sounds like a good outcome for all concerned.
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| I don’t think there is any doubt that Livett has good skills in attack and has an eye for the line. However, I noticed from the stats of his last game, he only completed 16 tackles which was the lowest on either side for both packs. I think that is the flaw which you cannot carry in the big games which has been recognised by Steve Price.
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| Quote ="49er"I don’t think there is any doubt that Livett has good skills in attack and has an eye for the line. However, I noticed from the stats of his last game, he only completed 16 tackles which was the lowest on either side for both packs. I think that is the flaw which you cannot carry in the big games which has been recognised by Steve Price.'"
Whilst not in defence of him, 2nd half he played a lot in the halves after quinlan went off.
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| Quote ="des lawson"If crooks didnt score 4 trys against wakey,he would have been man of the match in that as well,loves it with us,and wanted to stay last year.Terrific signing for us and would be surprised if he wants to leave us come the season end.'"
Well be surprised. He does want to play for Wire...however, possibly to your favor...he'll not return unless Wire can assure him of a 17 spot.
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| Quote ="49er"I don’t think there is any doubt that Livett has good skills in attack and has an eye for the line. However, I noticed from the stats of his last game, he only completed 16 tackles which was the lowest on either side for both packs. I think that is the flaw which you cannot carry in the big games which has been recognised by Steve Price.'"
Maybe other teams are too scared to run at him
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Maybe other teams are too scared to run at him
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Exactly this...there are quite a few obsessed with stats...and.there a 3 types of lies.
Lies, damn lies and stats.
Hull were attacking KRs left edge...suddenly the stats say HL made less tackles than his opposite side...
Here's something to take in...Paul Cullen was asked who was the best defensive player throughout your career...his answer was 'Jonathan Davis'...the interviewer was surprised to shocked....and asked why, 'because he could read a game at all levels and he could see where their attack was going to go accurately, he would tell .everyone where I should be and who to watch, so I did all his tackling for him....now where would jiffy fall in the defensive stats for that?
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| RD : Firstly, think you are being very unfair to Harvey Livett by linking your argument to Jonathon Davies. On that basis, Brian Bevan must have been the best defensive winger of all time... can barely remember him ever making a tackle !
Hoping Livett comes back an improved player and he is a definite talent.
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| just a poor mans ben currie.
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| Quote ="49er"RD : Firstly, think you are being very unfair to Harvey Livett by linking your argument to Jonathon Davies. On that basis, Brian Bevan must have been the best defensive winger of all time... can barely remember him ever making a tackle !
Hoping Livett comes back an improved player and he is a definite talent.'"
You haven't understood my post.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"You haven't understood my post.'"
you know, you spend a lot of time pointing out to people that they haven't understood/misunderstood/missed the point of your posts.
Have you ever considered making your posts clearer? [size=50or better even[/size
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| I for one wasn't comparing Livett to Davis. Not even remotely.
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| I don’t think you understood my post.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I think the rigours & limitations of a training routine would make Jack a dull boy when trying to woo the modern day local hotties.'"
He definitely looks like he’s put on a bit of size/weight this year. Especially since he had a really good breakout season in 2017 & then long run in the side in 2018 (Currie injured) before getting squeezed out the side by Bodene Thompson towards the back end.
He has talent that’s for sure, but I don’t see him really kicking on & improving the way Philbin has.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I for one wasn't comparing Livett to Davis. Not even remotely.'"
Then why use the analogy in a post about Livett's low tackle count in a game?
You confuse yourself sometimes.
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| The point was to discredit the stat angling HL being poor and/or lazy in defence...
And the Paul Cullen story is a good one not to miss out on.
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| My missus thinks she's the Jonathan Davies of cleaning the kitchen. Knows where all the muck and grime is and points at it barking orders.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The point was to discredit the stat angling HL being poor and/or lazy in defence...
And the Paul Cullen story is a good one not to miss out on.'"
Whilst you might think its a good story for us all not to miss out on, I've got to agree with Deckchair it's completely irrelevant, as unfortunately for us and Harvey Livett he isn't a Jonathan Davies.
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| And I still didn't say he was.
The point is to raise the issue that a low tackle count stat doesn't tell the truth.
The original post is trying to imply Livett had the lowest tackle count and therfore poor.
If players are going to continually run at him, he'll end up doing 50/60 tackles in a game...if there gonna keep running down the other side...he's gonna do 11.
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| Forget it. I retract it and wave the white flag.
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| There's no need to retract anything I'm not even saying that Livett is a bad player or that stat's tell the full story of anyone's performance for example we all know say in the case of our wingers last year that if they had more ball they would have had more chances to score (one of their primary functions).
BUT using the Davies comparative was a bit misguided to try and prove your point IMO
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"My missus thinks she's the Jonathan Davies of cleaning the kitchen. Knows where all the muck and grime is and points at it barking orders.'"
Phone up the RFU and see if they'll offer her a slightly better contract than the one you've got her on. Worked with Davies. You could free up some cap space and sign a younger up-and-coming star?
One piece of advice though - don't employ Steve Anderson to do your recruitment for you.
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| When all is said and done, it’s absolutely mind boggling that Livett isn’t seen as a much better option than Luther Burrell.
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| Quote ="RLIMR"When all is said and done, it’s absolutely mind boggling that Livett isn’t seen as a much better option than Luther Burrell.'"
Absolute waste of a shirt, price needs to bite the bullet and decide this experiment isn’t working.
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