Wouldn't be surprised to see Gleeson go to Wigan, that is if no Australian club wanted him, i also wouldn't be to bothered if he did go.

Tomkins is the obvious choice, but I can't see the lad ever wanting to leave, not if you believe the fact that we've made numerous enquiries as to his availability in the past. Sifting through the Pie Board's rumour posts, seems Hock has had a falling out with Nobby over alleged boozing problems - so maybe his lovely mug doesn't fit. If Smith can sort our lot out there's no reason he couldn't sort out a top mongrel forward like Hock too.

Surely the truth or not behind this is only a phone call away?

Your correct, but no offers have been forthcoming from an NRL side yet, although Canberra did make enquiries during the off season.

This rumour is just that, and should be treated in the same vain the release clause story was. Gleeson is very much part of Smiths plans until the end of the season.

Yep, your mission should you choose to accept it, LWF, is to get on the blower and get jiggy with your Deep Throat. Any news hugely appreciated.

As I understand it, TS and Gleeson have never really got on, apparently. On the other side of the coin, I have personally heard Martin Gleeson saying he would "NEVER" (which was said in a very very strong tone of voice) sign for Wigan.

Confusing, Yes. Not too bothered about losing Mathers but IMO Goulding with the correct coaching, training and development aid, will turn out to be a class act. All of them three factors I know he will gain from Tony Smith. Thats IF the deal goes ahead.

See, as I saw it I thought they DID get along. Wasn't it Smith who encouraged Gleeson to get more involved in games, running him out at SO for the England internationals? Seemed to be accomodating. Am surprised to hear that they don't get along. Furthermore I can't understand why a Wigan lad would insist he'd never play for his hometown team. Weird. I know it's what you've heard mate, but it paints an odd picture.

Goulding does indeed have bags of potential, and TS is the man to unearth it.

Quote ="Rocky Bobby"See, as I saw it I thought they DID get along. Wasn't it Smith who encouraged Gleeson to get more involved in games, running him out at SO for the England internationals? Seemed to be accomodating. Am surprised to hear that they don't get along.'" Indeed: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/oc ... leagueteam Quote "Martin is just about the most experienced person in the squad and he's been leading the team naturally in the last few weeks," said Smith. "It's a mark of his maturity and how far he's come. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit he's had a couple of chequered markers in the past but he's well past that and thoroughly deserves the captaincy." '"

Quote ="Rocky Bobby"See, as I saw it I thought they DID get along. Wasn't it Smith who encouraged Gleeson to get more involved in games, running him out at SO for the England internationals? Seemed to be accomodating. Am surprised to hear that they don't get along.'" Indeed: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/oc ... leagueteam Quote "Martin is just about the most experienced person in the squad and he's been leading the team naturally in the last few weeks," said Smith. "It's a mark of his maturity and how far he's come. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit he's had a couple of chequered markers in the past but he's well past that and thoroughly deserves the captaincy." '"

Indeed, you are correct but as i said about the Reardon thing, sometimes things just don't interest me and i cant be bothered, if he goes, he goes, let him.

I would take Sam Tomkins and Hock but that's about it maybe Richards as we need a half decent kicker but the rest of their squad is pants .

It does paint a very odd picture I agree - so due to that I wouldn't believe anything until at happens, if it ever will. Who I head that Gleeson didn't get along with Smith is in no way connected to Wire so I'm not sure where he's got the information from - possibly pi**ed up down the pub or from someone who is "in the know". What I do know is that there's no smoke without fire - so this Gleeson to Wigan MUST of come from somewhere.

Christ you'd think we were talking about Saints not Wire wanting any of our players!!! I'm pretty sure we'd be able to muster more then just Hock in a combined team................about 10 more tbh!

As for Gleeson, i'd like him at Wigan but i'd imagine this rumour is the result of a few drunken players starting rumours around Wigan town centre.

Riley did have a good game a solid performance I think that pople get on his back too much.

This one is going to run; but stop being silly.

Not a case of being silly mate as lets face it we're both sh*t but i just believe your that little touch shi*ter then us



If the question was asked the ohter way i'd serioulsy answear and take Hicks, Gleeson, Morley, Carvell, Higham(as bench hooker) and Westwood but that really is it.

Please name the 10 more give us all a laugh


And put down who they are better than in our squad please .I can only think of 3 who I would take from your total squad .Sam Tompkins,Hock and Richards.you would struggle to convince me anyone after those 3 .

Fair enough. Totally relative though, where you need to strengthen, may not be our strongest positions and vice versa.

load of nonsense if you ask me the only place Gleeson will go is Oz and the only one player from wigan i would want is Hock but only at end of season when vinnie anderson goes

Serioulsy come on!!!

Our side is poor yet yours is worse which by my logic means we'd get more in a combined team surely?

Of course.

We're pi*s weak at prop yet your strong and i'd say were better in the outside backs and backrowers and about level at halfback.

End of the day neither side is good enough and we all know it.

I will even put the side by side for you to compare
1. Stuart Reardon 1.ritchie Mathers
2.Chris hicks 2.Pat Richards
3. Martin Gleeson 3.George Carmont
4.Paul Johnson 4.Darrell Goulding
5.Matt King 5.Amos Roberts
6. Lee Briers 6.Thomas Leuluai
7. Michael Monaghan 7.Sam Tompkins (should be Tim Smith )
8. Adrian Morley 8.Stuart Fielden
9. Micky Higham 9.Mark Ridell
10. Paul Rauhihi 10.Andy Coley
11. Louis Anderson 11.Gareth Hock
12. Ben Westwood 12.Phil Bailey
13. Vinnie Anderson n 13.Shaun o'laughlin

14. John Clarke 14.Tim Smith
15. Paul Wood home 15.Joel Tompkins
16. Gareth Carvell 16.Pallinya
17.Ben Harrison 17.Harrison Hansen

Which 11 are better then Nickykiss do ya best then and tell us what makes them better

So basically what you're saying is that our record signing might be going to a rival club but that, because you can't be bothered, you're not going to pick up the phone to find out, even though you are very well connected?

Fair play to you Latchy, I'd be on that phone like a shot! Sadly, I don't have any inside information. You must have the patience of a saint.

Any news on the Sinfield signing by the way?

Thats not our starting 17.

1. Stuart Reardon 1. Pat Richards
2.Chris hicks 2. Amos Roberts
3. Martin Gleeson 3.Phil Bailey
4.Paul Johnson 4.George Carmont
5.Matt King 5. Sean Ainscough
6. Lee Briers 6. Sam Tomkins
7. Michael Monaghan 7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Adrian Morley 8.Stuart Fielden
9. Micky Higham 9. Mark Ridell
10. Paul Rauhihi 10.Andy Coley
11. Louis Anderson 11.Gareth Hock
12. Ben Westwood 12.Harrison Hansen
13. Vinnie Anderson 13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. John Clarke 14. Micky McIlorum
15. Paul Wood 15.Joel Tomkins
16. Gareth Carvell 16. Feka
17.Ben Harrison 17. Paul Prescott

ones in bold id prefer (this is going off current form because obviously matt king on his nrl form is better than ainscough at the moment.)

That Wigan side isn't the side I, Noble or most other would pick so going off my own plus your Wire team my combined side would be-

Richards
Hicks
Gleeson
Carmont
Ainscough
S Tomkins
Leuluai
Morley
Riddell
Carvell
Hock
Westwood
O'Loughlin

subs
Paleaaesina
Fielden
J Tomkins
Higham

Theres my 11 wiganers(maybe 12 if Gleeson signs

) and i can honestly say hand on heart i don't know which other Wire player would get in.

King and Monaghan would on top form but we all know they've come nowhere near and a team should be picked on form.

one word.........BLINKERED.